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[–]hfxB0oyA 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

LOL, Must be all of those black white supremacists they keep talking about.

[–]thomastheglassexpert[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not offering any evidence just a few assumptions. Who own guns and LOTS of ammo? I would think the vast majority are men, white, christian and conservative. Many whackos can of course get guns I was a prohibited possessor for 2 decades and I had zero problem owning and carrying guns the whole time. Decided to fix that and paid an attorney for a restoration of gun rights and took a grand and about 6 months and done. I just have the thought if white male conservatives or super right wingers (like me) were the real problem then USA would know it very fast.

[–]Tarrock 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's almost like jewish supremacists control the government and are looking to shift the blame...

[–]UncleWillard56 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Like the most recent crackpot in Jacksonville. What was it, 5 minutes after the tragedy it was attributed to this shadowy, white supremacist narrative? Funny, when little black kids get shot in the hood over rap beefs, there's no call to put an end to black supremacy.

[–]Alienhunter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

White supremacists get a lot of attention and make a great boogeyman. There's a bunch spread around all over the place and they pop out at protests and rallies and the like and the news loving a good controversy just goes and pours attention on them.

It's mostly a bunch of dumb fuck angry kids who want to play at their own kind of victim politics albeit one that has them being the victim of people not recognizing how superior they are or something. Since it's mostly a bunch of retards and there aren't that many of them the threat they pose is vastly overstated.

I'd say inflation is probably the number one problem in America at the moment. Well that and the general decrease in upward mobility due to various predatory practices that are geared towards the lower economic classes (payday loans for instance) but you can't make a boogeyman out of abstract economic issues.

[–]Mcheetah 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

When you get old enough, you'll either realize most people are absolute fucking MORONS, no matter their age, nationality, political views, etc. That, or you won't realize it, cause you'll be one of them. In all the countries I've lived in, human stupidity is the most consistent thing I've ever experienced about humanity. You just learn to forgive them for not being smart enough to realize how fucking dumb they are, appreciate the ones who aren't dumb and authoritarian assholes (like the woke left often tend to be) and just move on with your life.

[–]Alphix 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I was recently watching a video series on youtube where this woman (channel is called "itchyboots") travels the world on her motorcycle. In Africa, she often sees vehicles, sometimes big trucks, going 3 wide in the same direction on a barely two-lane road. OFTEN. And guess what, in a single day of riding she can see 8 frontal collisions and 20 trucks taken off the road, flipped, etc.

They still haven't figured it out.

Call me racist if you have to, but that's another level of stupid.

[–]makesyoudownvote 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Until I joined this site, I didn't think they even really existed anymore.

Ironically reddit made me drift right while this site makes me drift left. I really just want to find a moderate position.

[–]DirewolfGhost 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The oppressed exist. The jews (satanists) are practiced at silencing good.

[–]jacques1102 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Satanists!I swear i can never take you people seriously since everything is a satanic panic like back in the 80s.

[–]DirewolfGhost 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

What do you think I mean when I use the word satanist? Or are you incapable of dialogue? Of course you are. Your parasitic kind only subverts.

[–]jacques1102 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah yeah yeah, we herd this a thousand times where its always the jews fault and white people are incapable of doing anything wrong.Also anything bad that happens in the world was/is the jews fault.

[–]makesyoudownvote 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Here is my thing. I feel like everyone operates only on the extremes here. I think there are at least two valid points the people often called anti-semites raise.

  1. Israel is a fairly corrupt and dangerous country. They were given land that wasn't there and tend to oppress both Palestine and neighboring nations. They are overly militaristic and also get way too much financial support from the U.S., albeit much of this support has lead to great technologies for the U.S. and U.S. military so it's not all bad.

  2. Financial and entertainment industries are disproportionately run by Jewish people. This doesn't mean it's run by "the jews" or that there is a massive conspiracy, but much in the same way that CEO's of major companies are run by white males disproportionately it is of some concern and should be addressed. Again though this doesn't imply some massive conspiracy of white men, and similarly it doesn't imply a conspiracy of Jewish people.

But yeah the whole satanist thing, first of all, just no. I know plenty of actual satanists (Satanic Temple) and some of them are actually really great people. But secondly Jewish people are no more satanist than Christians are or Muslims. All the Abrahamic religions worship the same God, they only differ in what they think that God has meant since around 0 AD. Jewish people (for the most part) don't believe Jesus was anything more than a man, though some do believe him to have been a prophet, and Messianic Jews actually believe him to have been the Messiah, Muslims believe he was a prophet just like Ezekiel or Joshua. Up until around 300AD though even a lot of Christians didn't believe Jesus was the literal son of God, they just believed him to the the messiah (the leader of the Jews who would lead the Jews to salvation).

And yes Jesus was Jewish, despite what your minister, preacher, priest or whatever you call your particular form of religious leader told you. He is quite proud of being Jewish in most of the bible. The Christians were considered a part of Judaism just like Baptists, Methodists, Lutherans and Calvinists are considered a part of Christianity today. It wasn't until at least a century after Jesus died (the second time) that Christians really were considered something different.

[–]jacques1102 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No one disagrees that Israel is a corrupted shit country.Even leftist side with Palestine despite it going against everything they believe in.As for your second point, sure there's companies that may have a jewish president or CEO, but what i disagree with is then making the jump to prove some crazy conspiracy theory.For example, this idea that the vaccine was invented by jews to kill off white people when nobody i know who took the vaccine has dropped dead in the span of 2 years since.What gives?Did the jews decide to only poison a few of the vaccines but forgot some?There's also the constant moving goalposts where even when a company or place isn't own by a jewish person that it means jews are working behind the curtains.You know i would agree with people like OP if they didn't resort to "Something bad that i don't like must mean jews are behind it."as if everything is some coordinated thousand year plan by jews.

[–]makesyoudownvote 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, you and I are definitely on the same page on this. I'm the one who has been giving you funny and incitful votes.

All I'm saying is one of the mistake redditors and the left in general makes when discussing with these people is that they try to draw the line so far back, so as not to give any consessions whatsoever. This makes them objectively wrong which makes any argument they make going forward impossible for the person they are attempting to convince to come over to their side at all.

I got banned from /r/pics a year ago during Kanye's anti-semetic rant because the picture in question was a list of entertainment and finance businesses that were Jewish run. In his mind and the mind of many people who might be even slightly leaning his way this represented proof of his statement. In my mind it was proof of a similar but not identical statement that is simply that those industries do have a lot of Jews in charge, but that doesn't make the whole industry run by THE jews. Your average Jewish person has no association with either of those industries, even though they are more likely than any other group to know someone in those industries.

I got banned because according to reddit the only tactic is to censor, scoff and shame. This is exactly what conspiracy theorists expect in a conspiracy. By banning, scoffing, censoring and shaming you actually reinforce that narrative.

But by engaging like you did, and giving ground when earned, you can open minds just a bit and play part in sharing your perspective that they may be missing. The giving ground is important because otherwise what's the incentive for them to really engage? You have to be willing to risk your own perspective to change others effectively.

Also by understanding where they are coming from you can more easily give directions to where you are than if you just start from where you are. It's common sense that redditors seem to lack.

[–]Mcheetah 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Most of the people here are trolls who got censored too much and just want to say the N-word out of the taboo of it. They aren't really that serious. The woke left, however, aren't just being edgelords when they talk about wanting to kill white people and men.

[–]Adrift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

The only white supremacists that most people ever encounter are those found on forums like these. You'll find them slithering around on their stomachs all over here, Gab, and 4Chan, but generally speaking, you're unlikely to meet one in real life, or at least, one who is out in the open about it (unless you just happen to be in the same circles). The anonymity of these sorts of social forums takes the sting out of holding views that most ordinary people find repulsive.

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    [–]Adrift 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

    You're talking about "white" people as though they are some sort of monolithic tribe. They're not. You don't belong to a "white" people. At best you belong to single subset of people, out of dozens and dozens, who happen to have a relatively similar phenotype. And if you're an American, you probably barely belong to that one subset with anything more than genetics. And you don't have to play the Uno Reverse card for people who claim to hate all white people and want to see them go extinct by suggesting that you should love all white and hate all non-white people. First of all, it's simply not true that you love all white people. You don't know all white people, and there's plenty of bastards out there that you'd probably find loathsome. Only a simpleton would think that the only recourse to other's embracing ethnocentrism is to embrace your own ethnocentrism.

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      [–]Alphix 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Just like every other ethnic group. There is absolutely nothing controversial about this. Only, it goes against the narrative that ALL WHITES ARE EVIL RACISTS. Which, if true, it only serves to prove that every other ethnic group is more racist and therefore more evil.

      [–]Adrift 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

      Not all white people are indigenous Europeans. And if you go back far enough, the word "indigenous" becomes so vague as to be meaningless.

      All people who border other people have vaguely similar cultures and frameworks. In most cases, it's impossible to define a "white" border from a "non-white" border, as borders bleed into one another.

      That your child may look the same as you is no guarantee that you'll be a perfect organ donator for your child.

      A model discussing abstract properties does not necessarily map into the real world https://rofasss.org/2020/05/. But, again, even if it did, white people in toto are not ethnocentric. White people include a vast admixture of cultures and ethnicities. And even if, hypothetically, white people were all one distinct culture and ethnicity, and we could map abstract properties from the model to the real world, the utilitarian nature of ethnocentrism doesn't tell us whether or not one ought to be ethnocentric. From a strictly utilitarian perspective, it may be in the best interest of an impoverished family with too many mouths to feed to kill a few of their children, but that doesn't mean that they ought to actually do so.

      Calm down. White people aren't going anywhere. In a godless universe, no one deserves anything. As Dawkins put it, "In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference." In a God-full universe, there is neither Jew nor Gentile... we are all one in Christ Jesus.

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        [–]Adrift 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Nonsense. I make it for all population groups. All population groups have migrated from one place to another place at some point in history. I'm not anti-white. I'm an all lives matter type of guy.

        [–]Alphix 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

        Calm down. White people aren't going anywhere.

        The ADL would like to chime in:

        https://i.ibb.co/D4pF5dh/Extinguish-white-race.jpg

        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

        Fake

        [–]Alphix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Proof?

        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        The burden of proof is on you to prove it's real. But here you go: https://archive.org/details/abraham-foxman-in-an-appearance-on-august-25-1998-new-york-ny-made-the-following-speech

        The full context shows this is supposedly from 1998 from 'the second centennial meeting of the learned elders of zion' which does not exist.

        This thread has some genuine replacement quotes https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1180723/

        [–]Adrift 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Abraham Foxman never said that. Not even Stromfront thinks it's authentic. And even if he did, who gives a shit what he thinks. No one is going to wipe a billion people off the face of the earth.

        [–]Alphix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        THIS.

        [–]thomastheglassexpert[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        When "I was doing a 5 year stretch in the slam decades ago I did meet a few of the AB they had a small racket going on of selling boy pussy to those interested. They were evil flat out. They thought to sell my own ass and some broken bones convinced them otherwise. In my public travels of the planet wow have I seen supremacist type people but here to America like the Jussie Smollet deal they most often have to be invented. FJB yapping does not convince me and makes me wonder who is feeding that lie to him of what agenda. The good old days of the KKK are long over.

        [–]ShoahKahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Joggers are still over-represented, and they only count "four or more, including the shooter" as a "mass shooting"; when the vast, overwhelming shooters are joggers taking out each other in "hoods".