Just heard a sound bite from FJB that white supremacists are Americas #1 problem and looking around I just can't find any. LOTS of fringe lunatics though.

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No one disagrees that Israel is a corrupted shit country.Even leftist side with Palestine despite it going against everything they believe in.As for your second point, sure there's companies that may have a jewish president or CEO, but what i disagree with is then making the jump to prove some crazy conspiracy theory.For example, this idea that the vaccine was invented by jews to kill off white people when nobody i know who took the vaccine has dropped dead in the span of 2 years since.What gives?Did the jews decide to only poison a few of the vaccines but forgot some?There's also the constant moving goalposts where even when a company or place isn't own by a jewish person that it means jews are working behind the curtains.You know i would agree with people like OP if they didn't resort to "Something bad that i don't like must mean jews are behind it."as if everything is some coordinated thousand year plan by jews.

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Oh, you and I are definitely on the same page on this. I'm the one who has been giving you funny and incitful votes.

All I'm saying is one of the mistake redditors and the left in general makes when discussing with these people is that they try to draw the line so far back, so as not to give any consessions whatsoever. This makes them objectively wrong which makes any argument they make going forward impossible for the person they are attempting to convince to come over to their side at all.

I got banned from /r/pics a year ago during Kanye's anti-semetic rant because the picture in question was a list of entertainment and finance businesses that were Jewish run. In his mind and the mind of many people who might be even slightly leaning his way this represented proof of his statement. In my mind it was proof of a similar but not identical statement that is simply that those industries do have a lot of Jews in charge, but that doesn't make the whole industry run by THE jews. Your average Jewish person has no association with either of those industries, even though they are more likely than any other group to know someone in those industries.

I got banned because according to reddit the only tactic is to censor, scoff and shame. This is exactly what conspiracy theorists expect in a conspiracy. By banning, scoffing, censoring and shaming you actually reinforce that narrative.

But by engaging like you did, and giving ground when earned, you can open minds just a bit and play part in sharing your perspective that they may be missing. The giving ground is important because otherwise what's the incentive for them to really engage? You have to be willing to risk your own perspective to change others effectively.

Also by understanding where they are coming from you can more easily give directions to where you are than if you just start from where you are. It's common sense that redditors seem to lack.