The problem that is /s/ice_poseidon2 by HorrorShow in SaidIt

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If you hate sexual deviance so much, why do folks like you post all the shit about trannies, cucks, incels, freaks, and deviants? I'd think you'd want to avoid it being waved in your faces. I suspect you love that rage porn.

That posters entire reason for existence appears to be to irritate anyone else he/she comes across. The account history is an embarrassment to this website, and the repulsive clown that posts garbage like that. At some point, the Admins will hopefully have had enough. Triple boob invaded my sub and created a post to call me a liar - which was itself a lie- and then bothered magnora endlessly about being banned. A repulsive, ridiculous waste of DNA, that one.

How can hydrogen be the fuel of the future? Fulbright inaugural lecture with Professor David Blekhman | Chalmers University of Technology by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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How can hydrogen be the fuel of the future?

"We are standing in the doorway of a transportation revolution with the advent of electrified and autonomous vehicles. This is speaking from the point of view of a Los Angeles resident where both air quality and congestion are major factors”. Professor David Blekhman is an expert in the field of hydrogen infrastructure and has been selected as a Fulbright Distinguished Chair of Alternative Energy Technology. On the Sustainability Day, November 8, he gives his inaugural lecture.​https://www.chalmers.se/en/areas-of-advance/energy/news/Pages/Fulbright-inaugural-lecture---How-can-hydrogen-be-the-fuel-of-the-future.aspx

Green machine: How hydrogen is powering the right bus for the planet by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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I met a guy

Do you think it's a good idea to form your opinion of H2 based on the statements from one "guy"? Why not read the just released Australian National Hydrogen Strategy - authored in part by Australia's Chief Scientist Dr. Alan Finkel (136 page PDF 22 NOV 2019)

https://www.industry.gov.au/data-and-publications/australias-national-hydrogen-strategy

He said "It takes large fossil-fuel powered factories produce the hydrogen."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJhm6S3Gs1Q

LA TIMES: California invested heavily in solar power. Now there's so much that other states are sometimes paid to take it

Not since the height of the "Drug War" has there been so many misconceptions and outright lies told about something so important.

Building 7 by useless_aether in funny

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Did Gary Webb kill himself?

This solar farm has to switch off every second day due to negative prices by Chop_Chop in Solar

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If only there was a way to store excess renewable energy for weeks at a time...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EjjzgG3GcU

bobbobbybob by Chop_Chop in retards

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Chop_chop has created a sub called solar where he spams more of his hydrogen bullshit. by bobbobbybob in SaidIt

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Nothing much to say really, just chop_chop is a retard. I should really make a sub called 'retards" and just post chop_chop's name all day long. Is it really necessary to create a sub about solar in order to keep pushing the hydrogen line? Has the man no shame?

Paging /u/magnora7 - where on the pyramid is calling another Saiditor a "RETARD"?

Solar Hydrogen - fuel of the future

The /s/Incels sub looks stupid. by [deleted] in SaidIt

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Norway: Hydrogen plant will make the 'whisky island' Myken self-sufficient in electricity
https://techxplore.com/news/2019-10-hydrogen-whisky-island-myken-self-sufficient.html

The /s/Incels sub looks stupid. by [deleted] in SaidIt

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Yeah, like that bit where you kept saying "green hydrogen"

Green Hydrogen Fuel Cell Charging System at Goodwood Festival of Speed | Fully Charged
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCmKAAh-vkE

Weasel faced liar, you even have to keep bringing it up and add gaslighting to your list of sins.

I shall continue to point out your utter despicable hypocrisy as long as I find it amusing. Perhaps you're not used to someone doing that. Keep doubling down, booby

The /s/Incels sub looks stupid. by [deleted] in SaidIt

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just have a long memory for people being unnecessarily rude for no good reason

This coming from a Saiditor who created a post calling me a liar in my own sub without any proof. You're a laugh riot, booby. And a hypocrite.

How to see which subs are the most active on Saidit? by [deleted] in SaidIt

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imagine a room full of beavis and butthead.

You ought to feel right at home. Actually, Butthead is more intelligent.

Now is the time to implement sub Muting by bobbobbybob in SaidIt

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Seems that's exactly what that poster is here for. Avoid at all costs. Any time now, he'll call you a liar and expect nothing in return. A bad influence, and bad for Saidit.

Now is the time to implement sub Muting by bobbobbybob in SaidIt

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yet he persists, over and over and over again.

Reddit is dying. It’s rank has fallen from 13th this summer to 18th today. Conservative censorship and mediamatters/Shareblue shilling are destroying the site. by Orangutan in SaidIt

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You tell me, you are the one whose ego has gone into full on verbal diarrhea mode. Projecting your single viewpoint out on the world and attempting to invalidate that of others based on nothing but ego.

This coming from you is absolutely hilarious. Looks like some others are on to you and your "style" of "debate" lol

Can I be homophobic and anti trans here? by [deleted] in SaidIt

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Has he called anyone a liar yet?

Now is the time to implement sub Muting by bobbobbybob in SaidIt

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Perhaps you've heard of Scientific American?
.

Never in my life but I'll bet you one of my Teslas that it's owned in part by the Chinese.

Did you forget the /s ? (please say yes)

Now is the time to implement sub Muting by bobbobbybob in SaidIt

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Shame Jimmy Saville isn't around any more to pimp for the BBC, isn't it. Can't do much promotion from an unmarked grave though.

China is building Hydrogen Corridors and Hydrogen Cities while Americans talk of invading Iran and lapdog nations like NZ and AUS pretend everything is AOK.

Now is the time to implement sub Muting by bobbobbybob in SaidIt

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Now is the time to implement sub Muting by bobbobbybob in SaidIt

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The sooner that clown blasts off to Mars the better for Earth.

the richest and most admired man on this planet

ROFL look at the link above- he's a liar, a buffoon and a stock fraud. Did you buy a $50 propane powered flamethrower for $500 from the clown?

China has a long history of hyping snake oil.

Maybe stop digging before you've convinced everyone else you have no idea what you're talking about here?

Scientific American: Why China Is Dominating the Solar Industry

Between 2008 and 2013, China's solar-electric panel industry dropped world prices by 80 percent

Between 2008 and 2013, China’s fledgling solar-electric panel industry dropped world prices by 80 percent, a stunning achievement in a fiercely competitive high-tech market. China had leapfrogged from nursing a tiny, rural-oriented solar program in the 1990s to become the globe’s leader in what may soon be the world’s largest renewable energy source...more https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-china-is-dominating-the-solar-industry/

Perhaps you've heard of Scientific American?

Now is the time to implement sub Muting by bobbobbybob in SaidIt

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LOL@ELONMUSK - One of the Top Con Men in history. A laughingstock
http://www.shitelonsays.com/

Now is the time to implement sub Muting by bobbobbybob in SaidIt

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Fuck hydrogen btw, take that shit up to San Francisco.

ROFL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZsjcEDOQ3A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRr6rBV9lZU

Now is the time to implement sub Muting by bobbobbybob in SaidIt

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+1

hydrogen is ... brown? Big hydrogen _from coal_ market expected. by bobbobbybob in news

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Australia: Two huge renewable (GREEN) hydrogen projects planned for Queensland. “This is the first step in the country tapping into the huge potential of a renewable hydrogen export industry,” Miller said

https://reneweconomy.com.au/two-huge-renewable-hydrogen-projects-planned-for-queensland-57207/

Anywhere near QLD, Bob?

hydrogen explodes. by bobbobbybob in news

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Arizona Lithium Battery Storage Explodes -4 Firefighters Hospitalized (4/2019)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gENQYrlFfPs

Arizona power has not yet - even now- identified the cause of that Li-Ion battery facility explosion that happened in April 2019, which sent 4 firefighters to hospital.

Nel Hydrogen- the maker of the equipment in the Norway incident in the link identified the cause of the minor explosion within weeks, held a press conference, and have published their findings. No one got hurt, let alone died.

Which energy storage method sounds safer, considering the 2 incidents above?

Hydrogen isn't green at all. 95% is made using fossil fuels, and electrolysis is incredibly inefficient. by bobbobbybob in news

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New IRENA Report Explores Potential of Green Hydrogen

Hydrogen from renewables can help tackle various critical energy challenges. It could particularly offer ways to decarbonise a range of sectors where it is proving difficult to meaningfully reduce CO2 emissions, a new report by the International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA) on Hydrogen: a renewable energy perspective finds.
https://www.irena.org/newsroom/articles/2019/Sep/New-IRENA-report-explores-potential-of-green-hydrogen

LOL@bobbobbybob

Hydrogen isn't green at all. 95% is made using fossil fuels, and electrolysis is incredibly inefficient. by bobbobbybob in news

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Dear Saidit: This clown has nothing better to do. Everyone should feel sorry for people like this.

Replacing all car engines with hydrogen powered ones would increase global warming by bobbobbybob in news

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As "classy" as calling people liars?

Keep it up booby

Replacing all car engines with hydrogen powered ones would increase global warming by bobbobbybob in news

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And your endless fanboy BS irritates me.

Couldn't be happier. Thanks for motivating the next round of GREEN hydrogen posts. See you at the GREEN HYDROGEN OLYMPICS Next year? ROFL

Hydrogen isn't green at all. 95% is made using fossil fuels, and electrolysis is incredibly inefficient. by bobbobbybob in news

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Yeah, you were lying. Repeatedly and quite blatantly.

Do you run around in real life calling people liars? I hope so.

Hydrogen isn't green.

You are ignorant about this topic.

The slow, inexorable rise of green hydrogen

In the fight against climate change, hydrogen could be the answer to Hong Kong’s quest for greener fuel

Those are examples from the last week. There are countless other examples.

I did not invent the term "Green Hydrogen" as any idiot can see by searching.

I was not lying and you WILL stop calling me a liar.

Replacing all car engines with hydrogen powered ones would increase global warming by bobbobbybob in news

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you stifle debate on your egregious and irritating sub that spams the front page incessantly with one sided propaganda.

More lies from bobby

You're not here for debate, as you said below- you're here to "irritate"

And, no doubt like your other "endeavors" you've failed. Again.

Replacing all car engines with hydrogen powered ones would increase global warming by bobbobbybob in news

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true, I was just posting to irritate the hydrogen fanboy

And you admit your reason for existence on this site.

I'm not the only one on to you.

And you haven't "irritated" me at all. Keep pretending, bobby

Your history at Wattsup is interesting, at least the little bit that I've read

Hydrogen isn't green at all. 95% is made using fossil fuels, and electrolysis is incredibly inefficient. by bobbobbybob in news

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You were lying.

No I was not lying.

So I called you a liar.

I sincerely hope you do this routinely in real life.

That was after you'd avoided engaging in real debate and just posted endless links unrelated to the point.

ROFL

Hydrogen isn't green at all. 95% is made using fossil fuels, and electrolysis is incredibly inefficient. by bobbobbybob in news

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I don't "stifle debate". You created a thread calling me a liar, after calling me a liar in a post. Anyone that creates a thread in any of my subs calling me a liar will get banned. Despite your ego, it's nothing personal.

Now carry on pretending it's 1999.

Hydrogen isn't green at all. 95% is made using fossil fuels, and electrolysis is incredibly inefficient. by bobbobbybob in news

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it's nearly impossible to store it as a liquid because of the pressures involve

It's maintaining the temperature that is challenging with LH2

Hydrogen got the Apollo missions to the moon and back. You aren't suggesting that, in 2019- 50 years later- H2 cannot be stored? Guess what- we have carbon fibre now. Even better than whatever they used 50 years ago.

Toyota shoots a 50 Calibre bullet at a 700 bar full H2 tank
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVeagFmmwA0

fact that it likes to leak through almost anything at those pressures

Mike Strizki, one of the top H2 pioneers in the world, has stored H2 made from excess solar energy in old propane tanks since around 2005. You can see his system and the tanks in videos at his website - http://hydrogenhouseproject.org

It really doesn't matter what anyone thinks about this matter, China is moving to literally own the entire hydrogen industry as you read this. They can get things done- they are building Hydrogen Cities and Hydrogen Corridors now. China's Father of Battery EV's has called for a pivot to H2.

Hydrogen isn't green at all. 95% is made using fossil fuels, and electrolysis is incredibly inefficient. by bobbobbybob in news

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all the issues with storage and delivery

And what "issues" are those?

There are >15,000 hydrogen powered forklifts operating now in North America. Haven't heard of any "issues" with storage.

H2 can be made on site or locally, that makes tankers from the middle east obsolete. But you have to know enough about H2 to understand the benefits.

Replacing all car engines with hydrogen powered ones would increase global warming by bobbobbybob in news

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Is ignorance bliss?

US DOE: Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles (FCVs) emit approximately the same amount of water per mile as vehicles using gasoline-powered internal combustion engines (ICEs).
https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/water-emissions-fuel-cell-vehicles

Switzerland: Ground-Breaking Ceremony for the First Agrola Hydrogen Filling Station Held in Zofingen by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Don't think so. I'll bet someone somewhere is drawing up plans for one though.

Is it time to buy a fuel cell car? You may not see one pull alongside you any time soon, but they're far from dead. "Toyota is launching the second-gen Mirai in a couple of years, moving it from a limited production car to full mass production with much lower cost to assemble" by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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The US is broke. Also, bankrupt- morally, spiritually and fiscally BK. What does it even stand for anymore? Liberty? ROFL tell that to the people that have to live under drones. Wesley Clark spilled the beans years ago and still the wars continue. Tulsi Gabbard says $4 billion / mo spent on Afghanistan. What a disgrace. edit: 4 billion not 400

Is it time to buy a fuel cell car? You may not see one pull alongside you any time soon, but they're far from dead. "Toyota is launching the second-gen Mirai in a couple of years, moving it from a limited production car to full mass production with much lower cost to assemble" by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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I do feel sorry for China.

You shouldn't. They have not wasted trillions of dollars on useless wars over the last 20 years. Among other accomplishments, they have built the largest high speed rail network in the world in the time that the US has been in Afghanistan. That's trainsets, track, stations. The US has been -somehow- entangled in Syria, Ukraine and more.

They have been fooled into the economic enslavement of their people, who are on the verge of revolt.

Source?

Is it time to buy a fuel cell car? You may not see one pull alongside you any time soon, but they're far from dead. "Toyota is launching the second-gen Mirai in a couple of years, moving it from a limited production car to full mass production with much lower cost to assemble" by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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I don't have a car. Checkmate environmentalists.

Lots of people don't have cars. Thanks for sharing.

Maybe you should have 10 kids and buy a van? Surely that is green, lmao.

Hydrogen is about much more than just "green". Jobs and energy self-sufficiency. No more wars for oil. China will demonstrate how it's done. Checkmate, skeptics.

Solar power is now cheaper than the grid in hundreds of Chinese cities by Chop_Chop in Solar

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Mostly because it's so heavily subsidized by the Chinese government. Which is fine,

If only the US GOV could stop subsidizing the fossil fuel industry...

If you asked a random sample of 1,000 or 10,000 Americans if they thought it was a good idea to take their tax money and give it to the billion-dollar oil and gas industry, what do you think they would say?

China was smart enough to get in front of the renewable energy wave, and now they pretty much own the solar panel and wind turbine industries. As you read this, they are doing the same thing with fuel cells, while most Americans don't even know what a fuel cell is.

Billy Kristol and his fellow PNACers were wrong. It's a New Chinese Century. And they earned it. They haven't blown trillions of dollars chasing a bunch of "rebels" around sand dunes 8,000 miles away. Here's Jack Ma explaining: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW6zN_2SE8A

but the recuperation cost time is still about 8 years in Texas.

US Wind power prices now lower than the cost of natural gas https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/08/wind-power-prices-now-lower-than-the-cost-of-natural-gas/

I hear there are many times Wind turbines are curtailed in Texas because the grid can't handle the electricity. Texas needs Hydrogen!

Cloudflare terminates service for 8chans by Ian in Internet

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This clown called me a "liar and a fraud" in a comment, then created a post to do the same again. This is after he completely ignored the points that were put forth. He's bad news. I banned him (as I will anyone that calls me a liar without proof) then he went running to the site admin, just like with you. We need a way to mark these users so they are easily identifiable.

A request to Chop_Chop for a Hydrogen TL;DR by FormosaOolong in Hydrogen

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I admit I have not researched hydrogen in depth, and so I remain confused (and disturbed) by the need for water to make hydrogen

There are 22 litres of Hydrogen in ONE TABLESPOON of water. The earth is 2/3 water so there is no danger of running out. Desalination is expensive now but with renewables the cost will come down (see the middle east solar desalination projects)

Can you give us a summary of why hydrogen is a good choice for our energy needs?

Probably the best summary of global hydrogen projects is this PDF from Australia

Advancing Hydrogen: Learning from 19 plans to advance hydrogen from across the globe. This work is funded by the Future Fuels CRC, supported through the Australian Governments’ Cooperative Research Centres Program. 125 page PDF JULY 2019
https://www.futurefuelscrc.com/files/download/450181d39712b07

Sorry for the late reply, busy with other stuff, and missed the post until today

Porsche Taycan WORLD EXCLUSIVE genuine first drive & launch control testing 0-200kph | Fully Charged by Chop_Chop in cars

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Porsche Global Newsroom:

26 times from 0–200 km/h and back: the new Porsche Taycan demonstrates its staying power

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2019/products/porsche-taycan-reproducibility-power-output-electric-drive-18322.html

The Saidit.net Terms and Content Policy by magnora7 in SaidIt

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Just to be clear, that poster called me a liar in a comment after refusing to read or comprehend any of the replies they were provided, then created a post that directly called me a liar again. When posters call me a liar I'm going to ban them. Let me know if this is not ok, thanks. To make matters worse, that poster then lied about the interaction, just for the record. You can review the mod logs in s/hydrogen if you'd like to see what happened.

Off the grid: Hopewell, New Jersey man runs home without using electricity by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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He's managed to make it work since 2005 but he says he's been the victim of attempted poisoning. One of the great US Hydrogen Pioneers for sure! Some worthwhile videos on his website http://hydrogenhouseproject.org

Alpiq and H2 plan to use hydroelectrical power for hydrogen. "Through its joint venture Hyundai Hydrogen Mobility, H2 Energy and Hyundai intend to bring hydrogen energy onto Swiss roads by 2025 – 600 more than originally announced" by [deleted] in Hydrogen

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Which makes you a liar.

It's unfortunate that you have resorted to this. But I've come to expect it from the likes of you.

You also need to brush up on the 'logical fallacy' crib sheet.

You need to brush up on today's hydrogen industry. And I don't really care what you think about it. Directly insult me again and watch what happens. Now don't you have anything better to do?

Alpiq and H2 plan to use hydroelectrical power for hydrogen. "Through its joint venture Hyundai Hydrogen Mobility, H2 Energy and Hyundai intend to bring hydrogen energy onto Swiss roads by 2025 – 600 more than originally announced" by [deleted] in Hydrogen

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You don't seem to be able to disentangle H2 and 'green' in your mind. You will forever be foolish if you can't separate the two and understand the true role of H2.

Rubbish, piled on rubbish. I'm pretty sure I understand the "true" role of H2 after studying the industry for the last 5 years.

Do you think you can crack enough water to provide H2 to power electricity gen to match a doubled grid when the solar and wind goes down? Because that means you now need to have 2.5 - 3x the peak supply that we currently have.], plus H2 powered generating infrastructure that sits idle most of the time.

All of this and more has been studied by actual professionals, which it seems you are completely unfamiliar with

International Energy Agency: The Future of Hydrogen -Seizing today’s opportunities 203 pg study, 6/2019
https://webstore.iea.org/the-future-of-hydrogen
(Free reg required for download)

At the request of the government of Japan under its G20 presidency, the International Energy Agency (IEA) has produced this landmark report to analyse the current state of play for hydrogen and to offer guidance on its future development.

The report finds that clean hydrogen is currently enjoying unprecedented political and business momentum, with the number of policies and projects around the world expanding rapidly. It concludes that now is the time to scale up technologies and bring down costs to allow hydrogen to become widely used. The pragmatic and actionable recommendations to governments and industry that are provided will make it possible to take full advantage of this increasing momentum.

Given a choice between an anonymous poster on the internet and IEA professionals, I'm going with the pros.

Think whatever you want about H2 and Renewable energy. Won't make even a tiny tiny difference to the Leaders in this sector- China, Japan, Korea and soon Australia

Alpiq and H2 plan to use hydroelectrical power for hydrogen. "Through its joint venture Hyundai Hydrogen Mobility, H2 Energy and Hyundai intend to bring hydrogen energy onto Swiss roads by 2025 – 600 more than originally announced" by [deleted] in Hydrogen

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You seem to be confused about H2 and renewable energy.

Here's a video that may help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9117XqRG54

And here's the "Father of EV's" in China. Do you imagine that you know as much as Wan Gang about electric vehicles and hydrogen?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZsjcEDOQ3A

Alpiq and H2 plan to use hydroelectrical power for hydrogen. "Through its joint venture Hyundai Hydrogen Mobility, H2 Energy and Hyundai intend to bring hydrogen energy onto Swiss roads by 2025 – 600 more than originally announced" by [deleted] in Hydrogen

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A good debate has a solid footing. When you shift the goalposts, there's no learning, no gain, just a stupid game of chase.

No goalposts were shifted. You wrote: "energy has to come from somewhere to create the H2" as if anyone that advocates H2 doesn't know this. Condescend all you want.

H2 isn't inherently green. Stop pretending it is and then we can appreciate its energy density together.

It is if it is made with renewable energy. Stop pretending that it is not.

There will be LESS excess renewable energy,

ROFL

You haven't begun to hear about hydrogen. Take that to the bank.

Alpiq and H2 plan to use hydroelectrical power for hydrogen. "Through its joint venture Hyundai Hydrogen Mobility, H2 Energy and Hyundai intend to bring hydrogen energy onto Swiss roads by 2025 – 600 more than originally announced" by [deleted] in Hydrogen

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energy has to come from somewhere to create the H2

This is called "Assuming the reader knows nothing about H2"

Do you think anyone in the H2 industry doesn't know this?

In the future, do you think there will be MORE excess renewable energy or LESS excess renewable energy?

LA Times June 2019: California has too much solar power

Goldwind joins 20GW hydrogen plan in China

Like other wind-rich areas of China, Baicheng’s grid faces problems accommodating power from the 4.65GW of existing wind and solar capacity serving the city, leading to curtailment of output.... https://www.evwind.es/2019/07/20/goldwind-joins-20gw-hydrogen-plan-in-china/68122

Just curious, what country are you in?

Alpiq and H2 plan to use hydroelectrical power for hydrogen. "Through its joint venture Hyundai Hydrogen Mobility, H2 Energy and Hyundai intend to bring hydrogen energy onto Swiss roads by 2025 – 600 more than originally announced" by [deleted] in Hydrogen

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Just ignore China, Korea and Japan. One day soon, many North Americans are going to wake up and wonder how China took over the H2 fuel cell industry. It will be loads of fun to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZsjcEDOQ3A

If you're not interested in H2, don't click on a headline with hydrogen in it.

Canadian Company Takes Delivery of First Toyota Fuel Cell Vehicles by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJhm6S3Gs1Q

Example of recent news, this from yesterday:

Switzerland: Alpiq and H2 plan to use hydroelectrical power for hydrogen. "From the end of 2019, hydrogen for the first 50 of a total of 1,600 (Hyundai) fuel cell trucks will be produced at the Gösgen hydroelectric power station using hydroelectric power." LINK

You can drive throughout Denmark on hydrogen made from 100% renewable energy right now.

China Preps Hydrogen Subsidy Regime to Go Even Cleaner Than Battery Electric Cars by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Bob Lazar(sp) has a hydrogen powered Corvette

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytg23mDd1a4

The substance, and it's on the tip of my mind, but bah

Application of hydrides in hydrogen storage and compression: Achievements, outlook and perspectives LINK

My point is, the only reason hydrogen powered vehicles haven't become prominent in the US, is because of the US Govt, and the deep state behind them.

True- for more than just the lack of hydride storage- according to Stan Thompson, the "Father" of Hydrogen Rail, when Obama got into office he threw out all hydrogen funding and programs in favor of batteries. Just for politics, because he didn't like Bush. A disgrace. Well they can't stop the rest of the world now. It's full speed ahead for China, Japan and Korea.

Funny about Lazar- I contacted him some months ago and he didn't know that Toyota, Honda and Hyundai had hydrogen cars on the roads in California. These cars are using PEM fuel cells, not ICE with hydrogen fuel, which apparently surprised him. At that time he said batteries had made H2 obsolete. LOL It was a WTF moment!

Windows 10 Keeps Getting Worse by Optimus85 in technology

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Not in my experience. I had no updates whatsoever for over ~18 months (and wasn't even running Defender) with no problems at all. I think they say that so people will update. Also, with every update, they re-install stuff which I have to then re-remove.

An Interesting Thread: "Why Do Some Entities Keep Pushing Hydrogen Cell Cars Years After They Have Been Surpassed By Battery EV's?" by happysmash27 in Hydrogen

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I asked "Why is China pivoting to H2 from BEV" which the battery bullies ignore. Also, it will take more than just batteries to get the world off of fossil fuels. This is simply a fact. Every battery made today will die one day and no one is talking about the fact that recycling of Li-Ion batteries IS NOT COST EFFECTIVE IN 2019.

Elon Musk has done a great deal of damage to hydrogen ("fool cells") and you can see it all across ReddiTesla. It's been a long 4 year info-war but some people are actually beginning to get H2 fuel cells there now.

That Musk asshole made a fool of himself when he said that, and one day it will be clear to everyone.

Windows 10 Keeps Getting Worse by Optimus85 in technology

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Stop the GD Updates, take back control of your machine. I've been using this since 2016 and it works flawlessly. Never will I let any company dictate when I must update. Why more people are not outraged about this is a mystery.

https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

2019 Toyota Mirai Review | Explanation of Hydrogen Fuel Cell vs Battery Only | Christopher Car Reviews. "Toyota- a company that thinks about the Next Quarter Century instead of just the next quarter" by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Meanwhile, they have loss leader cars at limited quantities for places like California only

Air Products brings first hydrogen fuel station to Saudi Arabia
https://www.lvb.com/air-products-brings-first-hydrogen-fuel-station-saudi-arabia/

Batteries can store a charge for up to years

Not only are you ignorant about H2, apparently you don't know much about batteries either. Try leaving your Tesla at an airport for 3 weeks and then report back on the range available.

whereas you'd have to find a shitload of new powerplants for the lossy and moronic way hydrogen economy works.

Waste of time. Good luck with your batteries - and no you aren't going to bury dead ones in my backyard. Tesla's are throwaway cars because who is going to spend $12-15k on a replacement battery when the existing one has a range of ~80 miles?

2019 Toyota Mirai Review | Explanation of Hydrogen Fuel Cell vs Battery Only | Christopher Car Reviews. "Toyota- a company that thinks about the Next Quarter Century instead of just the next quarter" by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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I'm confident even Toyota as one of the last players of hydrogen cars will end their silliness once they can't compete with battery-electrics from all the other manufacturers.

"Confident" or not, it's almost as if you simply cannot process what this guy is saying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZsjcEDOQ3A

Or this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRr6rBV9lZU

To me, it seems like some indefinite excuse to continue production of internal combustion engine cars.

Of course it does, because you know nothing about today's hydrogen industry. Even if hydrogen cars vanished tomorrow, there are hydrogen drones, trains, trucks, forklifts, ships and more. You have just begun to hear about it. Or, you could plug your ears and continue reading websites that also know nothing about it.

2019 Toyota Mirai Review | Explanation of Hydrogen Fuel Cell vs Battery Only | Christopher Car Reviews. "Toyota- a company that thinks about the Next Quarter Century instead of just the next quarter" by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Hydrogen-powered cars will flame up easily, because hydrogen is leaks from the tanks and is a very inflammable gas.

Wrong once again. Where do you get your facts, from sites like electrek or "clean"technica, both owned by TSLA longs? lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA8dNFiVaF0

See ya at the 2020 Olympics, which will highlight Hydrogen.

From Gladstone to Tokyo: How hydrogen can fuel the 2020 Olympics and beyond

Hydrogen is here now, whether you like it or not. You have just begun to hear about it too. And there's not a damn thing you can do about it, except maybe bitch on H2 threads.

2019 Toyota Mirai Review | Explanation of Hydrogen Fuel Cell vs Battery Only | Christopher Car Reviews. "Toyota- a company that thinks about the Next Quarter Century instead of just the next quarter" by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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This basically means the hydrogen-electric cars will within the next quarter century be viewed like steam powered cars are viewed now; by far long obsolete and impractical.

Well that's your opinion, such that it is, who knows what informed it.

The thing is, China, Korea and Japan disagree, and are all going full in with hydrogen tech, building "Hydrogen Cities" and "Hydrogen Corridors" - part of Made in China 2025. You've heard of that, right?

Furthermore, even if you were right (you're not) hydrogen is powering drones, submarines, trucks, ships, trains and forklifts, all today. So cars are just one segment of the future of H2.

Far from "obsolete and impractical", hydrogen is an essential part of the green transition.

Bonus Video: Lithium Battery Explosion at Arizona Solar Energy Storage Facility
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gENQYrlFfPs
4 Firefighters went to hospital, and the cause is NOT known at this time.

Joe Biden sidesteps questions about coke-snorting son Hunter's foreign "work" in Ukraine & China by Chop_Chop in politics

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more damning than the cocaine use

Agreed, but his daddy was a huge drug warrior who ruined lots of lives. He's responsible for the "Drug Czar" after all. All Biden's are despicable. Here's one of a few outstanding Dore vids exposing this POS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soGNIATFDvs

Whaddya know, Joey Biden wants a New World Order.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndC1XL4731M

When I try to tell people that some freaks like Biden want a New World Order I'm called a Conspiracy Theorist. But when the punk actually calls for one, nobody says anything.

Emission-free hydrogen trains 'will be carrying UK passengers within 3 years' by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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will be targets for islamic terrorists

Why aren't they attacking propane facilities? You realize the existing H2 industry is a billion dollar business RIGHT NOW, right?

Gen Wesley Clark on US going to war in 7 countries in 5 yrs by send_nasty_stuff in altrightwebm

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So why hasn't Killer Clark done anything about them?

Because he's a partisan jackass, and almost led the world into WW3

Anyone remember the bombing of the Chinese Embassy under Mr. Peace and Rainbows? Or the clusterbombing of a Marketplace? How about the bombing of a TV station that killed everyone inside?

Here's the Real Wesley Clark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJA4ffN1W6M

This person belongs in the Hague

Saidit is now the second-largest reddit alternative in the world after voat by magnora7 in SaidIt

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Great news. Thanks for Saidit! Won't be long before this site passes that horrible joke called voat.

German Home Receives Federal Prize for Outstanding Innovative Achievements. "This passive house impressively demonstrates how a CO2-free energy, fully independent of the grid or additional external sources of power, is already possible." by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Kind of like computers once. China is mass producing hydrogen equipment now, watch the prices drop every month.

Solar Panels on Our House - One Year In ~ ElmertheClep, 2017-10-25 by JasonCarswell in Solar

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Good video, thanks for posting.

This desalination device delivers cheap, clean water with just solar power by Chop_Chop in Solar

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That's asinine, completely irrelevant, and lacks any intelligence, thought or common sense.

_____ off

further, the military industrial complex is a drop in the bucket compared to big healthcare, where fat cash goes.

http://costofwar.com around $200 million dollars a day, 7 days a week, 365 days/yr goes to chasing a bunch of "rebels" (that the US funds) around sand dunes 8,000 miles away. And that's just the money on the books. It helps to know what you're talking about, especially when you bluster your way into a thread somewhere.

San Diego water utilitiy shut them all down,

That's asinine and lacks any intelligence, research or common sense. Behold the Carlsbad Desalination Plant https://www.carlsbaddesal.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgFfFwtkdcw

Feel free to continue to make a fool of yourself.

This desalination device delivers cheap, clean water with just solar power by Chop_Chop in Solar

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In the US, all R&D is towards surveillance, drones and other killing machines. Nothing else matters. Look at how they watched as China took over the solar panel manufacturing business.

Tamil Nadu engineer invents eco-friendly engine that runs on distilled water, releases oxygen. "The engine will be introduced in Japan in the coming days." by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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I have no idea. It's an article on a webpage.

Tamil Nadu engineer invents eco-friendly engine that runs on distilled water, releases oxygen. "The engine will be introduced in Japan in the coming days." by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics.

And how is this invention not obeying the laws of thermodynamics? In this sub we post articles about hydrogen developments. If you're not happy with that, there are many other subs available.

The Hydrogen Council spends 60 seconds with Young-Doo Kim, CEO of Korea Gas Corporation (KOGAS). "Hydrogen is the next big thing in energy and a solution for environmental problems that we are facing." by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Repeat after me: hydrogen is an energy storage technology, not an energy source. You've still got to charge the damn things.

Are you imagining that KOGAS CEO Young-Doo Kim doesn't know the basics about Hydrogen?

Repeat after me: Hydrogen is Key to the Green Energy Transition.

Nikola Motor unveils trucking’s hydrogen future by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Dude it's not good, batteries weigh a lot and take ages to fill up.

That's why I post about hydrogen- the more hydrogen the less batteries. Hydrogen can provide a green future and abundant cheap energy. And jobs + energy independence. A win all around. Nikola is just adding battery electric to their hydrogen base.

improve railways

Hydrogen electric train https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgJLYFsu9iw

Think Tech Hawaii's Stan Osserman talks to Paul Ponthieux from the Blue Planet Foundation on the Big Island about hydrogen and energy storage by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Stan takes us to Blue Planet Research on the Big Island, where men are men and hydrogen roams free at 45 MPH. So fasten your seatbelt, because we’re going to hit 2017 with a blast of hydrogen goodness that you cannot get out of your head!!! Roll Tape!!! - Inside the Blue Planet Foundation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuvmUxG02z0

Blue Planet Foundation
https://blueplanetfoundation.org/

With all the reddit users coming over lately, I wanted to share something. This is what happened to Voat. by Alduin in propaganda

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They actually have mod elections there? Terrible.

Not in my case, a racist posted a terribly racist post and I deleted it, then that racist flipped out and posted the deletion to v/freespeech (or whatever, can't remember the sub) and his/her pals got together and downvoted me to where I couldn't even post in my own subverse, as the brilliant ringleader of Voat instituted a rule that anyone with -10 downvotes couldn't post new articles. It was infuriating, but only for a few hours because who cares. Those people (most of them anyway) are repulsive.

With all the reddit users coming over lately, I wanted to share something. This is what happened to Voat. by Alduin in propaganda

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I was "voated" right out of my own subverse (that I built over a couple years) by a flying monkey brigade straight out of hell. Some of the most disgusting people I've ever seen on the net in years. It's like Lord of the Fleas over there. It is truly disturbing that some of these despicable cretins are actually walking around in public, really.

With all the reddit users coming over lately, I wanted to share something. This is what happened to Voat. by Alduin in propaganda

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Great post- that video is classic and should be seen by everyone on the planet. There are lots of great books too - here's one

ALTERED GENES, TWISTED TRUTH: How the Venture to Genetically Engineer Our Food Has Subverted Science, Corrupted Government, and Systematically Deceived the Public by Steven Druker, an attorney who initiated a lawsuit against the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) that forced it to divulge its files on GM foods.

Not too long ago, it was "conventional wisdom" that margarine with trans-fats was better than butter. "Conventional wisdom" is usually wrong.

"Joe Rogan Experience #1255 - Alex Jones Returns!" by PowerfulJRE (2019-02-27) by JasonCarswell in podcasts

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Jones looks like he's having a breakdown. It's even funnier if you speed it up to 1.25x.

Elon Musk says the tech is 'mind-bogglingly stupid,' but hydrogen cars may yet threaten Tesla by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Also a filthy backstabbing liar. More people should know the Real Musk but the media makes him out to be the second fucking coming and his band of punks attack anyone that tries to shine a light on this piece of filth. Elon Musk: Lord of the Fleas

DALE VINCE V ELON MUSK: ELECTRIC CAR TSARS AT WAR OVER MOTORWAY CHARGING STATIONS

3/2015

...The email allegedly made clear Tesla’s plans to break up the partnership it had built with Ecotricity to install chargers in service areas and instead to make a direct approach to their operators. Ecotricity says that the email — written in haste after an article last year in The Sunday Times that disclosed Musk’s concept of an electric superhighway in Britain — also revealed Tesla’s intention to blacken Ecotricity’s name with politicians and the media... more https://www.driving.co.uk/news/dale-vince-vs-elon-musk/

A must read article or should I say a Musk read article

Putting Solar Panels on Water Is a Great Idea—but Will It Float? by Chop_Chop in Solar

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Japan has installed a number of these floating solar farms, they seem to think they have the mounting structures -if not perfected, good enough to add more.

Korea Railroad Research Institute makes Eco-friendly hydrogen train that runs 372 mile (600km) on a single charge by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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How massive is the train, and how massive is the fuel cell?

Here's Alstom's new Hydrogen powered Coradia iLint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jmDVUbfQXA

Also, what process (and process efficiency) is used to generate the hydrogen for the fuel cell?

Not sure what they're doing in Korea. Likely a mix of SMR and electrolysis

Burning tires to fill fuel cells is counterproductive..

Not a single person in today's hydrogen industry is talking about burning tires.

Make cookers hydrogen gas ready, experts tell West Yorkshire chiefs. "Energy companies & authorities plan to convert existing natural gas mains in Leeds & West Yorkshire to 100% hydrogen gas by 2035, in what has been described as “the world’s largest clean energy project” by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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can the old gas stoves be used w h? that would be cool.

Supposedly, with minor modifications, most existing gas appliances can burn H2. We'll see.

Most combustion engines can burn H2 as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKX_4feFLnM

MetaVista Inc. (China): MetaVista sets new long endurance record of 10 hours and 50 minutes with its liquid hydrogen-fueled drone by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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From https://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&oid=008&aid=0004164745&sid1=001

Translated by Google

[Money Today] Kim, Kwon Woo] [Demonstration of technology in all fields of hydrogen fuel cell drone, patent application and overseas export promotion]

On the 23rd, MetaVista set a record of 10 hours and 50 minutes on a dron with 39 liters of liquid hydrogen and a 6L special tank.

Liquid hydrogen company Metavista announced on Wednesday that it set up a 10 hour 50 minute flight record by demonstrating its multi-copter hydrogen fuel cell drone using liquid hydrogen. About 390 grams of liquid hydrogen was used in the 6L special tank.

MetaVista has set a six-hour flight history with a 4L tank on its first test on July 3, and has been testing it continuously to keep track of its goal.

MetaVista demonstrated its proprietary technology in all areas of hydrogen fuel cell drones, including liquid hydrogen production from hydrogen cyanide, ultralight liquid hydrogen tanks, ultra-light multi-copter, fuel cell power management, wireless sensors and sensor fusion Stressed. In the future, the company will apply for a large number of patents on related technologies that have been delayed due to concerns about technology leakage.

A MetaVista official said, "The demand for dron battery market is expected to increase by solving short flight time which was the biggest disadvantage of existing battery drone with liquid hydrogen. I have demonstrated the possibility of being utilized. "

"Liquid hydrogen tanks, which need to maintain insulation, are very difficult to make small tanks compared to large ones." "The long-term flight of drones through the development of small liquid hydrogen power systems is a high technology of miniaturization and light weight of MetaVista's liquid hydrogen tank "He said.

As MetaVista has proven its liquid hydrogen technology, it will actively promote overseas exports. Currently, liquid hydrogen drone and dedicated hydrogen liquefier are being packaged and active consultation with overseas companies is being carried out with the aim of exporting to overseas, a company official said.

The official said, "We have demonstrated the future of high-powered drones that are approaching rapidly and will continue to commercialize them in the future." The long-time flight images of liquid hydrogen drone can be confirmed on MetaVista's official YouTube channel "He added.

Kim Geun-woo reporter jai@mt.co.kr

China’s using its EV blueprint to promote hydrogen cars by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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from http://www.in-en.com/finance/html/energy-2239165.shtml translated by Google

百亿氢能产业项目落户佛山 首期投资21.6亿元

The 10 billion hydrogen energy industry project settled in Foshan. The initial investment was 2.16 billion yuan.

International Energy Network Source: Guangzhou Daily Date: 2019-01-22

On January 19th, Shanghai Remodeling Energy Technology Co., Ltd. (hereinafter referred to as “Remodeling Technology”) signed an investment agreement with the Nanhai District People's Government of Foshan City. According to the agreement, Remodeling Technology will invest in the construction of a hydrogen energy industry base project in Nanhai District.

It is reported that the industrial base project is located in Danzao Town, Nanhai District. The total investment of the first phase project is 2.16 billion yuan, including hydrogen fuel cell and system research and development base, fuel cell vehicle related industry R&D and production base and related parts industrial base. After the completion of production, the annual output value is expected to reach 15 billion yuan. Zhu Wei, Mayor of Foshan City attended the signing ceremony.

Yang Ming, deputy director of the Development Planning and Statistics Bureau of Nanhai District, Foshan City, said that the introduction of remodeling hydrogen energy projects will further improve the production chain of Nanhai hydrogen fuel cells, and bring a large number of relevant technical talents to strengthen the accumulation of hydrogen energy technology in the South China Sea. In addition, this year, Nanhai will further improve the existing hydrogen energy industry structure, explore the construction of hydrogen production, transportation and storage systems, and build a hydrogen energy industry chain.

Estimated annual output value of 15 billion

It is reported that the remodeling of the technology hydrogen energy industry base project will be in Danzao Town, Nanhai District. The total investment of the first phase of the project reached 2.16 billion yuan. The whole project includes hydrogen fuel cell and system research and development base, fuel cell vehicle related industry research and development production base and related parts industrial base. After the project is put into production, the annual output value is expected to reach 15 billion yuan.

The reporter learned at the scene that Remodeling Technology was established in 2014, and its research and development projects are mainly focused on vehicle fuel cell systems and their core components. Since the establishment of the company, 32kW and 46kW fuel cell systems and their core components have been developed and put into production. The 32kW fuel cell system has been installed on 530 Dongfeng logistics vehicles in 2017 and has been commercialized.

The company's chairman Lin Qi said at the scene that the company has always insisted on technological engineering research and development as the core, and maximized the technology into market applications. At present, the company has developed 38 fuel cells, with a total of 1,607 vehicles, providing services to 21 home appliance logistics companies, with a cumulative mileage of more than 4.5 million kilometers. Remodeling technology has also grown into the largest fuel cell system manufacturer with the largest sales volume and the largest sales volume in China. It has also become the chairman unit of the Fuel Cell Branch of China Automotive Power Battery Industry Innovation Alliance of the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology.

Construction of at least 22 hydrogen refueling stations

Talking about the reasons for reshaping the choice of the production base to settle in the South China Sea. Lin Qi said that as early as 2014, he and the remodeling team members came to Nanhai District of Foshan City to participate in the new energy car parade. At that time, Foshan's good urban style and strong atmosphere of new energy industry development gave him a deep impression. This also prompted them to settle the hydrogen energy industry project in Foshan.

Gu Yaohui, the head of the Nanhai District attending the signing ceremony, said that Foshan is a major manufacturing city and energy consumer market in the country. It is also an area where China introduced hydrogen energy industry earlier. In recent years, it has built hydrogen energy industry chain and promoted hydrogen energy application. The front-line test has already achieved initial results. As the main receiving area of ​​Foshan hydrogen energy industry, Nanhai District has listed hydrogen energy as one of the important industrial fields for the construction of Nanhai modern industrial system.

Gu Yaohui said that Nanhai will first promote the construction of more than 22 hydrogen refueling stations in the Nanhai area on the basis of the hydrogen energy industry, hydrogen refueling station construction and operation and hydrogen energy vehicle series support policies. The South China Sea will also establish a large data monitoring platform for the South China Sea new energy vehicle (hydrogen energy). In addition, the hydrogen energy industry R&D center and the hydrogen energy conference permanent meeting site will be built in the 47.3 square kilometer “Xianhu Hydrogen Valley” industrial park.

Improve the hydrogen energy industry chain

At the signing ceremony, the reporter interviewed Yang Ming, deputy director of the Development Planning and Statistics Bureau of Nanhai District, Foshan City. He said that in the hydrogen energy automobile industry, the development and production of fuel cells plays an important role. The introduction of this remodeling technology project will further improve the system of research and development of hydrogen production in Nanhai.

It is reported that last year the Nanhai District Government and Edelman Hydrogen Energy Equipment Co., Ltd. (hereinafter referred to as "Edman Company") signed a project investment agreement. Edelman will invest 3 billion yuan to promote the hydrogen fuel cell production project in Guangdong and build a hydrogen fuel cell and powertrain production base. It is expected to produce 80,000 to 100,000 hydrogen fuel cells per year. And Edelman is mainly engaged in the research and production of metal electrode plates for hydrogen fuel cells. The remodeling technology introduced this time focuses on the research and production of carbon plate hydrogen fuel cells. This also means that the research and development system for hydrogen fuel cell production in the South China Sea is further improved.

In addition, Yang Ming also told reporters that re-engineering technology and Beijing Institute of Technology have established a close cooperative relationship, which also allows Remodeling Technology to have an excellent technical research and development team. The re-engineering of science and technology will also bring a large number of hydrogen energy industry technical talents to the South China Sea and enrich the Foshan hydrogen energy industry.

Speaking of the South China Sea plan for the hydrogen energy industry this year. Yang Ming said that this year, the South China Sea will further improve the existing hydrogen energy industry system. At the industrial terminal, a hydrogen energy vehicle system including a complete range of models including hydrogen energy buses and logistics vehicles is formed. At the beginning of the industry, Nanhai will continue to build hydrogen refueling stations and explore hydrogen production, logistics, transportation and storage, and eventually build a complete hydrogen energy industry chain.

Tulsi Gabbard: "The United States needs to stay out of Venezuela. Let the Venezuelan people determine their future. We don't want other countries to choose our leaders--so we have to stop trying to choose theirs." by Chop_Chop in politics

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Can't give up. Americans should learn from the Yellow Jackets in France- if they got up off their couches and got in the street maybe the corrupt reptiles would start to take their voices seriously
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epfSeMGM5RE

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what are your (if any) objections to lithium batteries?

I don't really have any objections, but I have concerns over their ability to be recycled in a cost effective way, which is not happening today. Every single Li-Ion battery made will die one day and need replacement. Take a look at a traffic jam on the 405 in LA and imagine every one of those cars has a 1,300 pound Li-Ion battery. We're talking trillions of pounds of waste.

The manufacture of these batteries isn't green and neither is the disposal. But of course every H2 vehicle needs one (actually Toyota uses Ni-Cad in the Mirai but the same concerns apply) so more hydrogen = less battery waste.

There are many promises about solid-state batteries, and Toyota says they will introduce them sometime during the 2020's. On paper, they look much better as far as charging time, but I don't know anything else about them like how easy they are to recycle or exactly what materials go in them. We'll see soon enough.

[Mine are: stick a knife in your 'smartphone' and BOOM! {also, don't inhale the fumes ;)}]

That's why Tesla added a titanium shield under the car, after someone ran over a rock or something and the battery burst into flame. (that shield added time to remove and replace the battery too)

There was that time Actress Mary McCormack's husband was driving down Santa Monica Bl. and his Tesla caught fire for no apparent reason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZKGot04cE8

Not to say H2 isn't dangerous if something goes wrong, It surely is. Caution is required when dealing with any concentrated form of energy- most people know that propane is very dangerous if it leaks. But unlike Hydrogen- propane sinks when it escapes and hangs around, waiting for a spark.

Here's a leak and ignition test - Hydrogen vs. Petrol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA8dNFiVaF0