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[–]Musky 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

we work

Do we? You ever hear the expression, failure to launch?

[–]Bonn1770 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's childish black and white thinking. There's a LOT more to life than working a job followed by death.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Get a few years experience then you can get a not shit job.

Of course, all your options are going to be shit if you have nothing to offer.

[–]WoodyWoodPeckerHah he he he hah! 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Who is John Galt?

Read Atlas Shrugged and Galt yourself!

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The people who rule this world made this “normal” and people accepted this because they don’t want to be considered weird.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

And what was normal before that?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Only God only knows, because history only consists of only narratives the elites and priests allowed.

I’m going to guess that when someone was starving someone with abundance did not think it abnormal to share. Probably before the first king. I don’t think they were bred to be NT or slaves who defend being enslaved yet.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

someone with abundance

Have you ever met one of those kids of rich people who say shit like "why don't the homeless just buy a house"? Why do those kids think that way? How can they have such an absurd understanding of the world?

Where do you think abundance comes from?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

No I have not.

I think abundance comes production. I just doubt the Lockian and Hobbsian narratives about why we have a state. It’s a nice bedtime story to share with kids why we need to pay taxes and only care for ourselves or family. By telling people it’s normal we normalize it.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Why do you think people who bust their ass to create abundance for their families would have given anything to those too lazy to even provide for themselves? Especially in a world without industry, without technology, in which survival is a struggle. Which is exactly what the world was before kingdoms.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think we're going to keep talking past each other until we are holding the same premise in our discussion: all official history is composed of narratives permitted by elites, whether rulers or priests.

If we agree with that we can see that we see that history is written to justify why we need kings. A historian is a journalist about the past who writes narratives connecting the dots.

It tells us that egoism is natural, and so people ignore their moral instincts so they don't look weird. Our media teaches us that it is okay to be selfish. Then it tells us that we need a king so we don't steal from each other. Fortunately England has a king. Hail king!

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

all official history is composed of narratives permitted by elites, whether rulers or priests.

If you think an acceptable alternative is to make up our own version of history based on what suits our own narratives then we won't ever agree.

I don't need a history book to know that before the industrial revolution, before fertilizers, before mass transportation, before electricity, before water and gas and sewage times were tough.

I don't need a history lesson to know that charity to people outside of our own family is not natural, and only comes about as the result of institutions like the church.

If you want to make claims about history that completely contradict logic and human nature then you need to bring more evidence than "but muh history is propaganda".

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds like you bought into the leftist bullshit that is designed to turn you against your own so you can be used by the elite as cannon fodder.

It is a tradgedy of the human condition to always want more. When you see those who have more than you still demanding more you call that greed. But you are literally wasting your tine on the internet because all your needs are met and you have more spare time than you know what to do with. Yet you don't see your discontent and demand for more as greed. But that is what it is.

The elite want more. They want to tear down small buisness so everyone is forced to either be a slave to their welfare program or a slave to their mega corporations. And they are pulling your greed strings to use you to that end. To be another leftist refusing to do an honest days work. Demanding a welfare state. Making it impossible for small buisness to survive.

If you want a better job then earn it. Become aware and greatful for all that you have. Find someone who has the life you want and learn how they did it. Don't fall into the bullshit trap of making up slanderous stories about them like "they were born rich/ they had it handed to them".

Or learn on the job how to do something and then go into buisness for yourself. Put in 10 years in construction, learn the trade, collect the tools, make contacts then open up your own company. It is a guaranteed path to wealth.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i left the world, found God, am happier now

life isn't a joke, but it is a dream, we make it a joke with what we do with it, and how we believe and what we see ourselves as

yeah, pretty big joke.

but getting out.. is twisty// windy road.. all your perceptions create your reality and changing them is not so simple

think a new thought, then act as if it was so..

in every way

good luck follows you if you believe it