Why the Ukrainians are geniuses for sending videos of dead soldiers to their parents.

submitted by TheJoint from self.whatever

Putin offers huge bonuses for people who enlist and those killed in action are given a pension that is paid to their families, however to avoid paying the pension the Russian military declares the dead soldiers missing in action, the Ukrainians by sending the video with confirmation that it is their family members to the Russian families, the families can call bullshit when the Russian military tries to say the MIA, and the amount of pensions will siphon from the funds of the Russian military.

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[–]raven9 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

People who do things out of spite are not geniuses just because an unintended consequence of their actions could benefit the intended victims.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Still a war crime.

[–]Mazurro 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

How so? I think that lying to families about relatives death is much more of a crime.

[–]BravoVictor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's debatable. I don't think The Geneva Convention has quite caught up to 21st century instant-photo delivery via the Internet.

Back when US troops took photos of themselves gloating over the Iraqis they murdered and/or tortured, plenty of people claimed those were war crimes or at the very least immoral and tasteless.

Using photos of dead soldiers as propaganda during war is certainly not new, so in that sense, Kyiv isn't breaking new ground, although they've done much sleazier things then this, including murdering their own citizens and jailing opposing political parties, so I feel like this whole conversation is picking nits. Russia may not be nice guys, but Kyiv is certainly being run by horribly evil people.

Ultimately, what constitutes a war crime depends on who wins the war, since that's who writes the international treaties defining war crimes. In WWII, everyone did things that were considered war crimes under the letter of the law, but virtually no American or British officers were tried for war crimes, where as they certainly would have been had those countries lost.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

muh war crimes

[–]TheJoint[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No it isn't.

[–]BravoVictor 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I wonder why Kyiv never did this for the Ukrainians they murdered in their own country? Oh right, because then the world might actual notice the genocide they were committing.

[–]TheJoint[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Russians are commiting the genocide.

[–]BravoVictor 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Says who? Ukrainian Nazis desperate for the US to step in and do their fighting for them?

Zelensky's banned all political opposition in his own parliament. That's not what good people, not committing genocide, do.

The US Congress banned funding of Ukraine because its military had too many Nazis. We're known about them for over a decade.

During the 2014 revolution, peaceful activists protesting in Odessa in favor of an alliance with Russia were locked in a trade union house and set on fire by Nazis. They've been committing genocide against any ethnic Russians inside Ukraine for the last decade. But now those same Nazis are useful idiots to use as pawns for our proxy war against Russia.