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[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

If you see a light after death DON'T go into it, because demons fake being God and Jesus and Muhammed and Buddha and dead friends and celebrities and all kinds of things, and "heaven" is not a place you can go.

And if they insist you owe them debt for sins that's obviously a big fat lie, because otherwise the cross was in vain.

[–]In-the-clouds 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Are you suggesting people stay in darkness?

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Satan masquerades as an angel of light.

[–]In-the-clouds 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

True, but you did not answer the question.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

The light tunnel is a trick. Heaven is not a place, so if you're being taken to one it's just another part of the control system. The archons are just going to fuck with you more.

Otherwise they can't tell you whether to be in light or darkness.

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

When in doubt, pray to the Lord and ask him. Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. If a man calls on Jesus in sincerity and in truth, he cannot be deceived. The Lord himself will protect his mind from the deceptions of the enemy.

Darkness is where there is wailing and gnashing of teeth!

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Because he ransomed us. The law was given by angels so that sin would increase, and we would amass impossible debts to them. But with us they cannot use that excuse.

If a man calls on Jesus in sincerity and in truth, he cannot be deceived.

Who says he can't be deceived? If he can't be deceived, then why all the admonishments to "not deceive yourself" and "not be deceived"?

The Lord himself will protect his mind from the deceptions of the enemy.

And if you understood his words you will fall for the staircase to heaven trick. Because the kingdom of God will not come by observation, and they cannot say, "Look, there it is!", because look, the kingdom of God is in your midst.

Darkness is where there is wailing and gnashing of teeth!

Who said it was darkness outside the light tunnel? How do you know the light tunnel isn't a snare leading back to darkness? And how do you know what looks like light is actually light, and what looks like darkness is actually darkness? Your interpretations are worldly.

And we warn all the time about demons deceiving people with false visions and pretending to be ghosts and such. What makes this one any different? Or should we all start conjuring spirits and listening to mediums? What people see in these death experiences is almost exactly the same. The differences amount to the "god" they see being whichever deity they believe in, which already confirms that it's a deception. When Jesus is seen, he does not act like Jesus, but rather like all the other false gods, giving you a life review and demanding massive sin debts be paid, as if the cross never happened or was in vain. Demons run this simulation and control everyone in it, and they have more layers of control and deception than you would ever imagine. They want to keep you under their power and slavery and never understand or escape their evil world. Christ came to redeem us from their curse so that we could be set free. Understand that this world and this life is not good, and don't seek it out. In fact even the fundamental laws of physics and nature are evil, how could this realm be anything but that of demons? If you are afraid of hell and darkness and weeping and gnashing of teeth, then you should be even more terrified, because that's where we are right now.

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The LORD is the lawgiver and the angels do his will.

Isaiah  33:22  For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.

If a man prays to God and asks for the truth, God gives it to him and will protect his mind.  A man does not have to worry that he will be deceived if he prays sincerely to God for the truth.  If a man does not pray or does not sincerely want the truth, then he can be deceived.  The proud will not humble themselves and ask God for help, so they are deceived.

Philippians  4:6-7 Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

Through prayer, God passes understanding and protects a man's mind from errors. I prayed while considering your message, and I praise the Lord for not letting me fall into doubt and unbelief and falsity, which is darkness.

John 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Galatians 3:19-20 Why the law then? It was put in place for the sake of transgressions, being ordered through angels in the hand of a mediator. But a mediator is not of one, but God is one.

Galatians 5:2 If you get circumcised, Christ will be no benefit to you.

There is a mountain of evidence that the law is in fact the invention of Judahite elites and kings. And if it wasn't, then why is it condemned in Jeremiah?

Jeremiah 8:8 How can you say, "We are wise, and the Law (תורה) of The LORD" is with us? Look, truly the false pen of scribes works for falsehood.

Not to mention how even in the gospel of Matthew where James's corruptions have crept in and attempted to recast Jesus as upholding the law, it's very difficult not to see him as directly opposing it. "An eye for an eye was so the punishment didn't exceed the crime" doesn't work, because it specifically commands "You must show no pity". But Jesus says do not repay evil with evil. These contradictions are very famous and the church has to scramble to make up explanations for the problem to protect the sancitity of the Roman church's canon. But there is no way around it, much of the Bible is malicious forgery and has been used countless times to justify atrocious acts, including crucifying Christ. Now am I to obey that over his word? According to most the answer is yes, but if so then why accept him in the first place since you are at odds with what he says? Now if the Christians are to be believed we receive revelation not from men, but from God, and are to follow the spirit and not be bound by the letter. Otherwise I suggest you stop eating pork and wearing polyesther and observing redundant feast days and cultural practices of ancient Judea. That is a counterfeit law. In the real law "You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet," and any other commandment, is summed up in this word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. And when we inevitably fall short, we have been ransomed.

You have no evidence that demons cannot deceive you with false answers to prayers. It is extremely difficult to distinguish between a demon and God (and also yourself) because demons are exceptionally skilled at impersonation for the purpose of deceiving people. That's why you must test every spirit and every word.

Jesus says he is the light of life. Therefore do not be afraid of the dark, because you have the light of life. But I think more relevant is the fact that you do not understand Jesus, because if you did you would not ignore the of life part. The kingdom of God will not come by observation, and they cannot say, "Look, there it is!", because look, the kingdom of God is in your midst. But Satan does masquerade as an angel of light, quite possibly of a staircase or tunnel to "heaven". You yourself said that doubt and unbelief and falsity are what darkness means, so why do you apply that to the literal darkness of outside the "tunnel to heaven"? How do you even know that it is darkness? How do you know that behind you is not an even greater light that is not snatching you up? But even if it did appear as darkness to the eye, appearances can be deceiving. The Pharisees thought the messiah would come to conquer the world for Israel. They too misunderstood the true meaning.

Perhaps you are too afraid to step outside of orthodoxy because of your conditioning. Or perhaps it is the fear of social ostractization, rejection, and judgement. But you are blessed when the masses hate you, because that's exactly how the prophets were treated. Jesus and his disciples certainly weren't orthodox Pharisees and Sadducees. And when supposed brothers are doing such things to you, are they not the ones breaking the commandment? I warn you to avoid the modern church, as they have become a corrupt imposter just as every other institution (and not only the Roman church). Even in the late first century it was already corrupt, and forgeries such as 1 Timothy were appearing all over the place. And when corrupt humans control something, behind the scenes it is really archons pulling their strings.

[–]In-the-clouds 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You make it clear that you think the Holy Bible is corrupt and so what hope do you have?  Will you stay in the darkness forever?  What exactly are you trying to convince us of?  To avoid the light?  To avoid Jesus?  To not trust the Lord or His Word?

Law

Moses gave 10 commandments to Israel. Do you suppose Moses thought of the commandments himself?  He received them from God on the mountain top.  Likewise, the angels do the will of God.

Romans  7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

Circumcision

If a man, an adult, chooses to be circumcised to fulfill the Jewish law, thinking he will be justified by that, then he is rejecting Christ's sacrifice.  Such a man thinks he can justify himself and believes he has no need of Jesus.  We that are Christ's are justified by faith, not by works of the flesh, like cutting the foreskin.  If a man repents, he will be justified by faith in Jesus, who kept the law perfectly and was sacrificed for us.

God's Word Kept in Vain

People say "God bless America" in vain, too, but that doesn't mean God is not good.  Why would God bless a corrupt and wicked generation?  People speak the name of Jesus in vain, but their hearts are far from him.  What good is having the Bible if you look for faults in it?  That is like the scribes Jeremiah spoke of who kept the law in vain.  They had the word of life in their possession, but rejected it.  Is this you?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Do you know that it was God who created the laws of physics? Are you gnostic?

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not the way they function now. Might is right and evil reigns. Freedom is impossible. Almost everything is pain and good is scarce.

Call it gnostic if you wish but I'm sick of people doing evil in the name of God.