There is no justice in this world for humanity

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[–]jet199Instigatrix 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't usually suggest this but log off.

You don't like the world full of social media and phones then don't be part of it.

The rest of the world is still out there, go find it.

But this justice whinging is obvious nonsense. The world doesn't owe you anything. You have to make your life what you want it to be.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I think people like to romanticize the past, and since you weren't there you only hear all the happy memories. The more I study history the more I realize that humans of all stripes and colors have always been evil, and societies have always been oppressive and dangerously tribalistic, as good as they are at masquerading as the force of good.

I feel hopeless a lot too.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So you do sympathize with me?

But I'm having a hard time not romanticizing a past when the present and future is hostile and demonizes you, let alone enact things that are opposed directly to what I wish the world was. I'm not even asking for perfection, and total perfection is it's own kind of dystopia too, but I will save that for another topic.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

For nearly all of human history dissenters were brutally tortured as public entertainment. And children watched it. That still happens in some places today, but most of the developed world has largely improved.

[–]StillLessons 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The past 75 years in the United States and Western Europe were an anomalously easy time. This was a very specific time and location in which it was in fact better, at least to me, having spent much of my life in that bubble. It looks to me like we are trending back to the more standard model. Life is becoming more brutish and short again. But for those decades, for those of us who happened to live within our borders (outside the borders was still pretty harsh), life was better for a while there. Even so, many of us had the sense the entire time it was unsustainable. Our current moment looks like we were right; what cannot be sustained will not be. Coming down is sharp, rough, and ugly, not a nice gradual climb like the way up.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would say only the last 40-50. Before that it was only easy if you were white and 100% conforming. Things leveled out and there was peace for a few decades, but now it's starting to loop back around again.

[–]hennaojichan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

An older judge talking to a younger one: Always try to be just but if you can't be just, be arbitrary.

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think mercy is the better answer. If we were just, every single human who ever lived would receive a death sentence. Besides, I feel like it's better to let a guilty person go free than to condemn an innocent one. Unfortunately, our primal instincts don't see it that way.

[–]hennaojichan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If we were just, every single human who ever lived would receive a death sentence.

Are you referring to original sin?

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No. It's unjust to condemn someone for their ancestors' actions. If you take the red pill, you realize that every person has done something really wrong in their lives. What we let slide and what we punish harshly is completely arbitrary. Therefore you have no excuse for venegance, or you are condemning yourself.

[–]hennaojichan 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree. You do not seem like the original sin type at all and neither am I. Temptation is hard to resist.

[–]StillLessons 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think there is going to be no ultimate justice in this world...

We are all going to die. That is written into the code of the universe. Absorb the deep meaning of this, and realize that worrying about what happens during what is - by definition - a temporary arrangement is meaningless. Justice? So what. You're dead one way or the other, and given that justice is usually incorrectly measured by life vs death, there can never be a world where everyone doesn't lose in the end. Measure it by suffering? Well, those you love are going to die too, often of some disease we cannot cure. You are going to suffer. There's no getting around it.

So what's the point? The point is not the result; it's the process. A good life is a life to which you contribute what you know to be your best. Where although at any instant you may die (which is always true), if you die you do so doing what is right in your heart. Don't worry about changing big L Life; rather live your life in a way which creates harmony and meaning. Death then ceases to be a loss and becomes just the next event to continue on with.

I don't hate the general idea of human society, I just hate the current incarnation of what society is.

I 100% agree. I've thought this to myself many times in the past couple of years. We are capable of much better. We have all experienced that there are moments when we can get it right. We know the feeling when it's on us. The current incarnation at a government/corporate level is evil, no doubt about it. But there are a lot of people resisting now, more every day. Again, live your best life; beyond that we are all in the stands watching to see what big L Life will do. Beyond living our best individual lives, the rest is out of our hands.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

there can never be a world where everyone doesn't lose in the end

Yes there is!

[–]humancorpse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

BIDEN FOR EMPEROR 2024

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

JUSTICE does not exist. It's an idea and no more. There is no justice in nature, either. It simply doesn't exist outside of human imagination.