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[–]EndlessSunflowers[S] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (7 children)

I was thinking about this yesterday,
everyone can pretty much agree that unity is better for us than division,
but then someone will slap a loaded label on that situation, call it socialism, and people lose their shit, lol, easily manipulated minds

[–]goobandit 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

everyone can pretty much agree

Yeah, I’m gonna have to stop you right there

[–]rearden-steel 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I assure you it is not the label that makes people lose their shit about socialism. It is the track record.

[–]soundsalad 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

It's not jut a label. Among other things, it's the collective ownership and sharing of the means of production. And what are those? Is my body a means of production? Very slippery slope.

[–]Markimus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Is my body a means of production?

No and socialists historically were against commodification of the body IE prostitution and such. Means of production are things (means) used in order to produce other things (production). Tools and the factory housing those tools, for example.

[–]soundsalad 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Means of production are things (means) used in order to produce other things (production).

You use your body to produce everything.

[–]Markimus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i hope to god youre actually stupid and not just making a fool of yourself intentionally

[–]SaidOverRed 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No dawg, the entire rise of the West was the triumph of the individual. Only then does society advance more rapidly than anyone could have guessed.