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[–]Waxsimulacra 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Not exactly. A lot of MGTOW's see the game as rigged with the current legal system and social order. Not only that there are fewer and fewer reasons to have a relationship as time goes on. If you want sex there are plenty of women willing to provide that with none of the headache that comes with long term commitment.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Relationships are not all about sex. A hookup can't provide a relationship, or a partner. After age 30 or so the commitment becomes the point. Having a family becomes the point.

[–]Waxsimulacra 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Unfortunately not a lot of relationships are very fulfilling. Add to that the stress that comes with forcing something that doesn't fit and making compromises to keep your spouse happy, plenty of men are deciding the juice isn't worth the squeeze. You can have female friends. You can have FWB's. But why get married or commit if you're not planning on children?

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You should have kids. Otherwise what is the point of your existence? Are you changing the world in some meaningful way? If not, and you don't even produce someone who might, you are just wasting resources.

[–]Waxsimulacra 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Being alive is wasting resources? You should have kids if you want and are up to the responsibility. It's not a task to be taken lightly and to each their own.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

How is it not? When you die all your experiences die with you. Nothing is remembered. What exactly are you leaving behind? What difference have you made besides using up resources?

[–]Waxsimulacra 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This is so absurd I can't even imagine how you came to this conclusion. So every great visionary, philosopher, mathematician, architect, author, musician, artist, humanitarian, captain of industry, religious leaders did NOTHING if they didn't squirt out a rugrat?

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Are you changing the world in some meaningful way?

Did you even read what I wrote? Or are you just one of these NPC leftists who skims for key words to pick the right pre programmed response? Are you any of those things?

[–]Waxsimulacra 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It doesn't matter what I am and am not doing. Your reply that a person cannot change the world in some meaningful way without having offspring is patently absurd but that's a nice ad hominem. A sure sign you've lost the debate. Thanks for playing.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is what I wrote:

Are you changing the world in some meaningful way? If not, and you don't even produce someone who might, you are just wasting resources.

Then you replied with:

So every great visionary, (blah blah blah) did NOTHING if they didn't squirt out a rugrat?

So clearly you did not understand English. Or you are this woman.

If you made the world better in some way that will survive you then you are not a waste of resources. If you have kids that constitutes making the world a better place. Otherwise you are a waste of resources. So, yes, it does matter what you are or are not doing.

[–]Comatoast 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sex is still a really good bonding experience and pretty important for a relationship with that in mind, but I'll agree with you. A lot of people are opting out of having families now though, which is depressing.