Why did both my account and my subsaidit get banned?

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[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

To be fair, things take time to grow and develop. It could be that after decades of only tv, radio and public schooling everyone was so brainwashed they were as effected by the Nazi arguments as any other cultist is to anti cult reasoning. But over time more and more people became red pilled. They spread those red pills outside the internet. Each one creating 2 more stray sheep. Each stray sheep another microphone for red pills. Only when it started to really accelerate did the censorship have to get ramped up. But by then there were already lots of red pill microphones, and only then did you start noticing them. So peak censorship and peak red pill seemed to emerge simultaneously, but in reality red pilling was growing exponentially and censorship was the giant boot that came down to crush it.

[–]magnora7 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (25 children)

Imagine thinking a counter-culture trap set up by the elite and military-industrial complex is a "red pill".

[–]Canbot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

A red pill is not one thing. It is not an organization. It is not a movement. It is any argument that convinces someone that a mainstream claim is wrong. It is anything that reveals reality.

It is not a nazi thing. It is not an alt right thing. It's just the truth.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

Yeah I obviously know what it means. I can't imagine thinking a counter-culture trap set up by the elite and military-industrial complex is the truth though

[–]Canbot 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

I assume you mean that neo-nazism is a counter culture trap. Be that as it may, everything a neo nazi says is not instantly wrong. If they say the sky is blue the sky does not change color. There is nothing stopping nazis from spreading the truth. If they say there is an IQ discrepancy between races; that is in fact that truth. It does not become a lie simply because they want to use that as a reason to advocate for killing people. It is simply a truth that does not justify killing people. It does however explain things like income discrepancies across populations. If you deny IQ science, which has long ago proved that IQ effects income, then you are left with no explanation and that void is filled with bullshit claims of racism levied against white people. This lie is extremely harmful. The lies invented to fill the void left by denied science are the same ones fueling the racial hatred that is destroying this country.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I'm as hardcore a nazi as you can find. And I never supported, advocated or approved of violence. This is all BULLSHIT.

u/magnora7 has been threatened, bought and paid for, or something. SHUT THE TRUTH DOWN OR ELSE.

It's that simple.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

That's like a feminist saying she doesn't hate men. She just likes women, and wants to advocate for them. But you don't need to be a feminist to like women and advocate for them. Feminism espouses hateful anti men bullshit. Feminists routinely call for shit like killing all men as soon as a sperm alternative can be found, with no push back from other feminists. It is the feminist culture to hate men. Any woman identifying as a feminist endorses that culture and those ideas. Otherwise they would not be a feminist, just another person who likes women and advocates for them.

If you disapproved of violence you would not be identifying as a nazi.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I agree 100% about feminism, but it isn't a valid analogy with regards to National Socialism. You know far less about the topic than you think you do. Being a nazi is NOT about "white supremacy". At all. It never was. Sure, unintelligent brutes have recuperated the white ideals into their hatred of other peoples, but that has nothing to do with the original ideology.

You should inform yourself better if you are going to have these discussions.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Feminism was originally about equal rights. It is not that any more. Neither is nazisim about socialism.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Your ignorance shows. Please keep talking so everybody reading can see how shallow your acquaintance with the topic really is.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Be that as it may, everything a neo nazi says is not instantly wrong.

No, of course not. But the ideology as a whole it's quite a long way from "the truth"

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So you are the arbiter of truth now? Fuck off.

And what, only what YOU SAY IS THE TRUTH is allowed on your "free speech" site? FUCK OFF!

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So you ban people for not holding to your "truth"? Genuine question.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

So are nearly all the dominant narratives of our society. We live in clown world. And clown world is setting up to be far more deadly than nazism. Clown world is based on victim narratives, where as nazism is based on entitlement narratives. Both are dangerous, but victim hood is viscous like nothing else.

To explain: a normal person would not kill another person. They find it morally reprehensible, they empathize with the victim, they feel shame and regret. But if they believe that other person is trying to kill them all of that goes out the window. Not only is all morality, empathy, and responsibility gone, but it activates the most primitive survival instincts. Vicious, spiteful, and totally without logic. People in that state will do heinous things that nothing else can make them do. That is the nature of victimhood.

By comparison entitlement will make you justify all kinds of injustice, but there is no survival instinct. There is no fear mixed with panic. Nothing to make the prefrontal cortex lose all control to emotions. You can try to reason with a nazi. There is no reasoning with an SJW.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

You can try to reason with a nazi. There is no reasoning with an SJW.

Lol yeah, because "reasoning" with them worked so well in WW2

[–]Canbot 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Communists murdered an order of magnitude more people in the world than nazis. That the nazis were murderous does not make them less reasonable than SJWs. The SJWs will murder millions just as soon as they can.

[–]AsInBeer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. Magnora is fighting the last war.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hitler had 26 peace plans, all denied by Britain. Britain wanted to destroy Germany because it was a rising power.

[–]AsInBeer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Magnora I know your intentions are good but show me the society which big L liberal but taken over by genocidal despots where the despots did not make their first order of business doing away with free speech. I am not saying you're a genocidal despot (lol) . I am saying letting everyone speak their truth leads to exchanges like this:

https://saidit.net/s/whatever/comments/6bdf/why_did_both_my_account_and_my_subsaidit_get/ohjc

[–]AsInBeer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even in Rwanda, the government banned and continues to ban, really, the ability of advocates for the Tutsi people to have their say, to reply to what is said against them.

Banning speech ALWAYS preceeds genocide. If we NEVER banned speech, it just couldn't get off the ground because even where there's long standing ethnic hatred, people still prefer peace. It's only when the CNNs and Rwanda governments and the FaceBooks and the Third Reichs and the Twitters and Red Russians of this world start to ban speech that it gets enough lift to be airborne.

Want to build an unbreachable bulwark against genocide? Protect Free Speech.

Yes it's completely counter-intuitive. So people accept "bad" speech being banned. So genocide keeps happening.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Magnolia