Why did both my account and my subsaidit get banned?

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[–]filbs111 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun -  (23 children)

Interesting. Some kind of transparency about which rules were broken would be an improvement over this situation.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hell yes. I just got a permaban from reddit after 2 temp bans and I didn't get a reason any 3 times. I appealed and got told it was for repeated rules violations but nobody said what. What I suspect the bans were for was suggesting a 37yr old virgin to hire a prostitute and not in a mean way in PMs, calling Sino a hate sub, and the last one was telling someone to lose weight. I think.

It's shitty when they throw you away like you're garbage and can't even be bothered to give a reason. I had a quarter mil karma too, people obviously generally liked what I wrote.

Anyways, my point is the only reason I'm on saidit is because of Reddit doing that, and so now I gotta worry about this place doing it too? That sucks.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

agreed - paging /u/magnora7

[–]hydr0lyze 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We need your help, /u/magnora7

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The guy made a sub to literally promote 1940s Nazism. He was literally using banner images from 1940s German propaganda. We don't allow for the promotion of violence here, and that includes ideologies that advocate for the extermination of other races.

Seems like that should be pretty obvious, tbh. People are welcome to go to voat or poal if they think this is too limiting.

[–]antireddit 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you for being honest about it. I have no particular love for Nazis, but I dont believe the cartoonish hollywood propaganda we get about them as the embodiment of evil is accurate either. Ironically I think because they are portrayed this way, there are a segment of antisocial people who are attracted to their ideology just because its so forbidden.

I get that its a lightning rod and dont blame for you taking the stance. It's definitely not a hill worth dying on, but as someone else said it can be a free speech canary in a coal mine, and it's unlikely the thought police will be satisfied with only that for very long.

[–]Leo_Littlebook 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

That's nonsense. You obviously do permit the advocacy of "violence", when it's lawful or when it's war. Nor have I seen evidence that the Nazis advocated for the extermination of other races. There is better evidence for Australians, Chinese and Americans doing that, but you don't ban their iconography. The Holocaust is an obvious hoax to anyone who investigates fairmindedly.

If you want to limit Nazi trolls, you should ban them for rules of debate violations. There are some NatSocs who would follow the rules, and they would improve the site. The majority of the Voat mouthbreathers would get caught by existing rules.

The reality is that you're a bit too scared of Jewish power, and a bit too indoctrinated with Jewish lies, to do that.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, if you get mad at Hitler in this regard, you must be even more upset with what happened with the First Nations of America. It was literal genocide for many tribes. But here we are, free to make subs about how great we think America is.

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    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    that includes ideologies that advocate for the extermination of other races.

    Where did the National Socialists actually advocate for such?

    [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    THEY NEVER DID.

    u/magnora7 has been bought and paid for, or threatened, or something. They got to him­. It's over, TRUTH IS BANNED ON SAIDIT.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    You've gone too far, magnora7. You're doing the same thing as Antifa: trying to destroy history because it is inconvenient. Next we won't be able to discuss the Sandy Hook hoax because it was about killing schoolchildren.

    Talking about 1940s Nazism should not be forbidden on a "free speech" site. And so what if somebody uses favorable terms? Can you debunk these views? If so, a true FREE SPEECH place will let you do that.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    I'm the OP. u/magnora7 banned me again for "ban evading". I made the second account to highlight that I'd been banned without one fucking sensible reason and u/magnora7 bans me again and deletes my post. u/magnora7 is gay.

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      [–]filbs111 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

      didn't even have posts aside from posts for testing css

      When you assume, etc.

      Given the OP : "didn't even have posts aside from posts for testing css", it's not clear which rule was broken, and why.

      [–]magnora7 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      Promoting literal 1940s nazism = promoting violence

      He made a whole sub about it. He put pictures of hitler as the banner. I'm not going to allow this place to become voat.

      People are welcome to go to voat or poal if they find this unacceptable.

      [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      That was my censorship canary. Can you delete my account as well please?

      /edit: Nevermind - found the deactivate button. Good luck with whatever it is you are doing. For the purposes of clarity I'd recommend adding your ideology driven censorship targets to the site rules.

      [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      What makes you think that? I'm showcasing and reflecting nostalgically of the time my ideology was implemented in a country and helped recover that country from the Depression much faster than any country on Earth at that time.

      [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      You are absolutely right of course. That this site says "we're about free speech" but you can't post about NatSoc is utter bullshit. National Socialism, yes, literally 1930s Nazi ideology, is the best the world has ever known. No, not the "best" in terms of favoring one people over another - Because if the same ideology were used in say, Black African nations, it would also provide fantastic results. And the same for every single nation on Earth.

      If you want TRUTH to be spoken on your site, u/magnora7 then the Nazi ideology has got to stay. Otherwise you are as much a sellout as Reddit. TRUTH should never be banned, anywhere. If you can't agree with that, you're not worthy of administering a discussion site.

      [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Oh wow, so FUCK FREEDOM OF SPEECH WHERE IT HURTS, right u/magnora7?

      You were supposed to be better than this. I am very disappointed.

      [–]filbs111 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Thanks for at least providing an answer. Many sites don't.

      [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Mm

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I didn't spam or advocate violence. My account didn't have anything advocating violence. My sub had only two posts with "test" in the title and body. u/magnora7 banned me for a fucking sub banner. The banner didn't even have anything violent, it featured posters from the NSDAP and photos of parades and marches and Hitler from 1933-1945 Germany. u/magnora7 commited the guilt by association fallacy by banning me.

      [–]AsInBeer 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (110 children)

      If you don't allow the Nazis then there is no opportunity for people to refute them in public. Just think about it. You have to have faith in that open conversations and debate will bring the light to even the darkest minds. If you cut them out completely then the following will / will not happen.

      No one will ever encounter what they think and begin to ponder it as it's actually presented and then dedicate themselves to refuting their ideas on their own terms, in terms they themselves accept as valid.

      They will never encounter an intelligent counter to their beliefs that starts to work away at those beliefs.

      No empathetic person can ever be given a chance to divine what they're really worried about / afraid of/ hopeful for and separate those things from the Nazi ideology which currently serves those needs.

      You have to believe in the power of ideas and words to change minds and behavior. What else is there? War. Violence. Killing.

      The whole point of free speech is the bomb defuser gets to examine the bomb, learn about it, be with it. think about it, sleep on it, dream about it, absorb it, grok it .... then finally diffuse it in a fit of inspiration and genius. This is what great writers do. This is what great thinkers do. But you can't cut them off from engaging with the raw material of what will later be their ultimate triumph.

      Censoring ideas is one of the first things the Nazis did. That's because they know they can't withstand all minds which may come at them. Ditto Critical Theory fascists and fascists of all types. They amputate inquiry and speech because they know, deep inside themselves, that a better mind than theirs with clearer thoughts will eventually come along and they'll be defeneseless against them.

      [–]antireddit 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (56 children)

      Back when the internet was free there were "nazis" online and the world didnt end. It didnt result in the 4th reich or an epidemic of violence. There was far less violence, racial animosity and chaos previous to deplatforming cancel culture and censorship. Anyone who didnt like Nazis was free to debate or ridicule them.

      It seems to me it wasnt until the censorship and cancelling began that huge numbers of "normal" people started to get "red pilled" about Jewish power and media control and began asking gee, maybe theres some truth to the "tropes". I know that's what happened with me. A few years ago I was still more or less left wing.

      [–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

      To be fair, things take time to grow and develop. It could be that after decades of only tv, radio and public schooling everyone was so brainwashed they were as effected by the Nazi arguments as any other cultist is to anti cult reasoning. But over time more and more people became red pilled. They spread those red pills outside the internet. Each one creating 2 more stray sheep. Each stray sheep another microphone for red pills. Only when it started to really accelerate did the censorship have to get ramped up. But by then there were already lots of red pill microphones, and only then did you start noticing them. So peak censorship and peak red pill seemed to emerge simultaneously, but in reality red pilling was growing exponentially and censorship was the giant boot that came down to crush it.

      [–]magnora7 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (25 children)

      Imagine thinking a counter-culture trap set up by the elite and military-industrial complex is a "red pill".

      [–]Canbot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

      A red pill is not one thing. It is not an organization. It is not a movement. It is any argument that convinces someone that a mainstream claim is wrong. It is anything that reveals reality.

      It is not a nazi thing. It is not an alt right thing. It's just the truth.

      [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

      Yeah I obviously know what it means. I can't imagine thinking a counter-culture trap set up by the elite and military-industrial complex is the truth though

      [–]Canbot 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

      I assume you mean that neo-nazism is a counter culture trap. Be that as it may, everything a neo nazi says is not instantly wrong. If they say the sky is blue the sky does not change color. There is nothing stopping nazis from spreading the truth. If they say there is an IQ discrepancy between races; that is in fact that truth. It does not become a lie simply because they want to use that as a reason to advocate for killing people. It is simply a truth that does not justify killing people. It does however explain things like income discrepancies across populations. If you deny IQ science, which has long ago proved that IQ effects income, then you are left with no explanation and that void is filled with bullshit claims of racism levied against white people. This lie is extremely harmful. The lies invented to fill the void left by denied science are the same ones fueling the racial hatred that is destroying this country.

      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

      I'm as hardcore a nazi as you can find. And I never supported, advocated or approved of violence. This is all BULLSHIT.

      u/magnora7 has been threatened, bought and paid for, or something. SHUT THE TRUTH DOWN OR ELSE.

      It's that simple.

      [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

      Be that as it may, everything a neo nazi says is not instantly wrong.

      No, of course not. But the ideology as a whole it's quite a long way from "the truth"

      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      So you are the arbiter of truth now? Fuck off.

      And what, only what YOU SAY IS THE TRUTH is allowed on your "free speech" site? FUCK OFF!

      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      So you ban people for not holding to your "truth"? Genuine question.

      [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      So are nearly all the dominant narratives of our society. We live in clown world. And clown world is setting up to be far more deadly than nazism. Clown world is based on victim narratives, where as nazism is based on entitlement narratives. Both are dangerous, but victim hood is viscous like nothing else.

      To explain: a normal person would not kill another person. They find it morally reprehensible, they empathize with the victim, they feel shame and regret. But if they believe that other person is trying to kill them all of that goes out the window. Not only is all morality, empathy, and responsibility gone, but it activates the most primitive survival instincts. Vicious, spiteful, and totally without logic. People in that state will do heinous things that nothing else can make them do. That is the nature of victimhood.

      By comparison entitlement will make you justify all kinds of injustice, but there is no survival instinct. There is no fear mixed with panic. Nothing to make the prefrontal cortex lose all control to emotions. You can try to reason with a nazi. There is no reasoning with an SJW.

      [–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

      You can try to reason with a nazi. There is no reasoning with an SJW.

      Lol yeah, because "reasoning" with them worked so well in WW2

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Magnolia

      [–]AsInBeer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

      Well I don't know that it's Jewish power at work here. I know that one of the big Free PSeech advocates, a woman whoose name slips my mind right now, advoacated for making anti-semitism a hate crime. That's just fraudulent in my view. You can't be for free speech then advocate for makinig anti-semitic speech a crime.

      I do wish you woudl rethink your anti-semiism. It's jst an inaccurate picture of how the world works. Holding a false map of how the world works hurts you. Yes some Jews Y. But then some X's Y too.

      Like I've said elesewhere, instead of begrdging the Jewes the power they ahve in the world, why don't you emulate the good character traits which let them rise to the heights. Maybe you'd even meet some of them and find out, hey, they're not really the way I thought they were.

      [–]Markimus 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Well I don't know that it's Jewish power at work here.

      All internet censorship is done by the ADL so it is literally jewish power.

      I know that one of the big Free PSeech advocates, a woman whoose name slips my mind right now, advoacated for making anti-semitism a hate crime. That's just fraudulent in my view. You can't be for free speech then advocate for makinig anti-semitic speech a crime.

      Laura Loomer. She's not for free speech, she's for jewish interests. She thinks jewish interests will be pushed further with 'free speech' which to her obviously doesn't include criticising jewish power.

      [–]antireddit 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      Well I don't know that it's Jewish power at work here.

      Yeah, it is. It just is. There's tons of evidence. You can piss off just about anyone, but if you piss them off you're gonna have their media, lobby groups, lawyers, academics, the state of Israel, politicians elected by their money and media, and an insane amount of wealth all brought to bear against you. This is the reality, and it can be tested, and has been, and every time someone tests it, this reality gets confirmed. This isnt the case with any other group, because no other group has this much power, and has such a devoted group that uses it.

      This doesnt mean EVERY jew is in on some worldwide conspiracy or is part of some hive mind. It just means there is a very devoted like minded segment with a lot of money and power which cannot be openly criticized or scrutinized.

      Like I've said elesewhere, instead of begrdging the Jewes the power they ahve in the world, why don't you emulate the good character traits which let them rise to the heights.

      In theory I would agree. The problem isnt just the power they have, its what they do with it. There seems to be a large segment of them that are ridiculously anti white. Whether its driven by religious hatred, paranoia, a desire for revenge based on a victim complex, or just a callous disregard for the identity and culture of whites, or a combination of all of the above I dont know. We cannot address this constant media incitement against whites or the demographic replacement of whites in their homelands without addressing this hatred, and countering it. That doesnt mean its responsible for EVERYTHING we see, but the other causes cannot be addressed without also addressing this.

      At this point I've given up on getting Jews themselves to pressure the ones causing all this trouble. They either cant, or wont. It doesnt matter what they think anymore. They are 2% of the population and those numbers should be reflected in the overall direction of this country, and no more. It is up to us to address the problem, and to inform others of whats going on. With boycotting, social shaming, and self advocacy(lobbying) WE have to change it. The Jews sure as fuck arent gonna do it for us, and many are actively opposing any attempts by us to do something by instituting dystopian levels of censorship and control. I agree We SHOULD emulate the jews in their highly successful self lobbying, ethnic cohesion, and the mentality that if you fuck with any of us, you fuck with all of us.

      Of course we should ensure that as a small minority they are protected from violence and oppression, but that doesnt mean we have to tolerate the current situation. The events of 2020 prove that we do so at our peril.

      [–]AsInBeer 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      Here it going going from Blacks to Jews this time:

      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/02/jacob-blake-sr-has-long-history-of-racist-antisemitic-anti-christian-posts-set-to-meet-joe-biden/

      [–]antireddit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I dont really care what Jacob Blake thinks about me or any other group. His only relevance is that the police were forced to respond to his rapist behavior, and now the situation he caused and escalated is being used as more fuel for riots chaos and violence. If Biden meets with him he's a bigger idiot than I thought. If I was Trump I'd be thanking my lucky stars for his stupidity because it plays right into his hands. It's basically a photo op for Trump.

      Hopefully Trump exploits it and ignores the advice of his village idiot son in law Kushner, who seems to want Trump to bend over backwards appeasing blacks who will never vote for him.

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        [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

        I don't see how pointing out that Jewish people are in all the major positions of power is anti-Semitic, but apparently I am anti-Semitic for pointing this out. People don't seem to understand that you can point out problems with races and religions without being racist or prejudiced.

        [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

        Men are almost all the major positions of power. Yet saying "men run the world" is a dumb thing to say because 99% of all men actually have very little power.

        Same thing.

        [–]antireddit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Saying men run the world isnt dumb. Its reality. Shouldn't we be able to acknowledge reality?

        Same thing.

        Also. If every major media corporation was run by a male(as was the case), it would be an over representation of 2 times their number.

        If every major media corporation was headed by a Jew(as was recently the case), it would be an over representation of 50 times their number.

        An over representation of 2 times is not a huge deal, and yet feminists and academics will openly bring it up. But 50 times? That should concern people and be discussed, yet to express concern is to be labeled a nazi, censored and cancelled. Thats a problem, especially when institutions like the media are so fundamentally important to democracy.

        [–]AsInBeer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Right but Magnora should dumb == banned?

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          [–]AsInBeer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          No the anti-Semitism is the implicit notion that they act as a hive mind. Believing people are merely exemplars of their race or creed (and what they are is always bad / violent /devious ) is what racism is. It denies individual agency and reduces them to a members of a sort of ant army that's working tirelessly to achieve some unified goal.

          When people talk like that, it's just factualy wrong and marks them as a racist. It's running reality through a reducing valve so it's somehow easier to think about and easier to decide how to act. It's a crude attempt to reduce the inherent hypercomplexity of the real world, which is filled with real individuals and their independent wills and perspectives and motivations and beliefs.

          [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          If I point out the fact that the uber-rich (mostly jews in the western world, mostly Chinese in the eastern) are colluding with each other to consolidate power between their own sub-groups, would you call me anti-semitic or racist? If you would, then I feel sorry for you. I have asians in my family, and I have jewish blood in me, and I don't look down on individuals from those cultures just because there is evil in said culture... It's like hating all Americans for what happened to the Native Americans.... not all Americans alive today would've supported such actions. I don't blame the cultures, but if someone were to write down the factual information about these people and they didn't mention their race/culture, I would find it to be disingenuous.

          [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

          If you want to debate nazis who specialize in hijacking forums, go to voat or poal. Have fun.

          We don't need that at saidit. This place used to be named antiextremes after all. People are welcome to go to voat or poal if they think this is too limiting.

          [–]AsInBeer 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

          OK. Duly noted. Find me at Voat or poal(?) people. Anywhere else anyone recommends?

          [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          I don't know if Voat can be trusted, their code isn't visible, they're not open source, they require identifying code to get on the site... Dunno man.

          [–]AsInBeer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Thanks! Duly noted.

          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          I second this.

          [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

          You have to believe in the power of ideas and words to change minds and behavior. What else is there? War. Violence. Killing.

          Yep, as such, it is u/magnora7 who is indirectly advocating, fostering and encouraging violence.

          [–]AsInBeer 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

          Too much! How is Mangora advocating violence???? Oh I see.. "advocating" is the wrong word and concept. Magnora is in her/his/its small way acting in a way which ultimately facilitates disuniion, hatred, vioence and war. This person doesn't understand that; essentially this person is at the upper limit of their intelligence / insight / foresight/ experience. We all have such upper limits.

          [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

          Which person doesn't understand what?

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                [–]antireddit 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (32 children)

                It depends on what you mean by Nazis. According to the mainstream left anyone who doesnt suck BLM dick is now a "nazi".

                [–]denverkris 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                Anyone who doesn't believe that a man can be a woman is also a nazi.

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                  [–]wrongthink 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

                  I suspect most of them are larpers and shitposters who are doing it for some form of the lulz. I don't get the impression that these are the kinds of people who see the light of day very often so I'm not currently very concerned by them. They are predictable and annoying though and just out of a desire to ban low effort content I have little sympathy for them.

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                    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                    You are doing something right. Something most people on the internet just don't do. Edit: including Magnora

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                      [–]AsInBeer 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                      It is dehumanizing and it also belies a disbelief that people can change and do change and change because of new content that gets into their minds through the spoken and written word.

                      This is the operating system of society- this is the core of how culture works.

                      [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                      Yep, in effect this censorship by u/magnora7 is essentially an anti-social act. It is very very bad.

                      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                      Me too, I'm a nazi and I'm interested in all viewpoints, especially to SPREAD THE TRUTH, but the admin is willfully turning this place into a censored POS site.

                      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                      Nope, you are wrong. We are many and we are DEAD SERIOUS about spreading the TRUTH, no matter that YOU DON'T LIKE IT.

                      [–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

                      Call someone a nazi enough and they adopt it as a badge of honor. The image of nazism in their mind becomes warped to more resemble what they are rather than what the nazis were. The word has lost it's meaning, just like the word racist. It is used as a slur and an ad hominem. No different than someone replying to an argument by calling the other person the n word and thinking that constitutes a valid retort.

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                        [–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

                        Nazis are not known for their stance on government. They are known for having a very narrow view of who deserves to live based on ethnicity. They are known for violently perusing an agenda of ethnic cleansing, expansionism, and genocide.

                        So the fact that you would call him a nazi for being a national socialist perfectly encapsulates my point of definition creep.

                        [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                        He put literal 1940s nazi propaganda posters as his banner image. Pictures of hitler smiling, and the wehrmacht army.

                        There's no definition creep, the guy literally wants a literal nazi government and was openly promoting that.

                        [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                        Well that is different then. But what he used to label the guy a nazi is still definition creep. If you see a black guy in a Mercedes and assume he must have stolen it, that is a racist assumption. If it turns out he did steal it that doesn't make your assumption less racist, it was still based on nothing but skin color.

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                          [–]Chipit 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                          Using the definition of "anyone to the right of Mao Zedong".

                          Once I started actually reading and paying attention to far left discourse, it was shocking to discover how obsessed you are with nazis. They're everywhere. Especially in other far left groups. I simply didn't understand how you could call each other nazis and fascists and mean it. But it's true.

                          [–]antireddit 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

                          So saidit is actively banning people for non violent content?

                          Are there other examples of this? I know IP2 was banned, but they supposedly engaged in doxxing, harassment threats etc, and have a pretty toxic reputation. Is saidit now just banning shit for being alt right or "antisemitic"?

                          [–]johnnybravo 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

                          Ip2 was banned due to pressure from saidit's server company, after some butthurt mentally ill guy convinced the latter that the ip2 was illegal and should be shut down.

                          As for nationalsocialists, I don't see much reason for saidit to ban it outright.

                          [–]antireddit 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                          So that doesnt answer my question though. Is saidit now banning other subs and posters based on pressure from their server company? I dont doubt their server company is being "pressured" and threatened by Jewish lobby groups or just rando Jews. Their end goal is to ban any and all scrutiny and criticism of Jews anywhere in the world. If they could make criticism of Jews a capital offense they'd probably do it.

                          Doesnt mean that normal well adjusted human beings would listen to them. The idea that the most powerful and wealthiest ethnic group in human history would be immune from all criticism is absurd.

                          [–]AsInBeer 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                          Can you fill me in on what ip2 is?

                          [–]wrongthink 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                          iceposeidon is a livestreamer with edgy content and a toxic fanbase who has been repeatedly kicked off of every streaming platform. I don't know why they include a 2, maybe a reference to the first instance of their subreddit equivalents always getting banned.

                          [–]AsInBeer 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                          iceposeidon

                          I see. The issue with the internet is it's literally everyone and ,,,,they bring their behavior ...LOL

                          [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                          No

                          [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

                          this site censors now, and a nazi will definitely be banned as the election gets here

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                            [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

                            he didn't advocate violence but that pyramid doesn't say they ban you for it anyway

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                              [–]asterias 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

                              Your assumption is that National Socialism generally advocates violence, which shows that you would benefit from a sub discussing its ideology.

                              [–]AsInBeer 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                              Advocating violence be done to a group or a person is NOT against US law. Doing so when it could lead to imminent violence is. I can say "gas the X" in Americ and I am nto breaking any law. If someone is tanding right next to someone with poison gas and I say the same thing, OK now I'm in trouble.

                              It's not being coy to say that all laws advocating the death penalty by the state are advocating doing violence to someone for having done something. It's still advocating for violence. People alwys say so and so should have such and such done to them. None of that is illegal.

                              Is the content policy here what is legal or something else?

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                                [–]AsInBeer 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                The site can only do what it can do. I didn't see any threats of violence posts.

                                [–]LarrySwinger2 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                                Maybe try /s/Saidit if nobody replies.

                                [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                make a new account, i was banned as well, they never tell u why, this is my 5th account,

                                always use vpn, to have many ips

                                like i said, saidit is not 100% censorship resistant

                                we are not safe anywhere unless we make a decentralized reddit software, where not even the admin cannot delete it,

                                the technology is almost here, when it arrives its going to be chaos, as nothing can be deleted, so if someone post ur address and picture, there is nothing u can do,

                                it will be 100% true censorship resistant and total chaos

                                [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                I like this idea

                                [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                What were you banned for?

                                [–]Leo_Littlebook 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                Dunno unless you were spamming test posts.

                                [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                You were repeatedly dragging discussion down the pyramid and repeatedly promoting violence. Promoting literal nazism and creating subs to promote it isn't going to fly on saidit. You were literally using propaganda posters from 1940s Germany as your header banner images.

                                If you want to be a literal nazi, who advocates for the extermination of other races, go to voat or poal or ruqqus. We don't allow for the promotion of violence here.

                                [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                How many subs? I think having an axis history sub would be great. Basically objective history about NSDAP war and economic policies, etc. Many war veterans are quite fond of the Germans who fought for the Reich and how hard they fought. They wish to learn about their stories, beliefs and their governments policies, bad and good.

                                [–]AsInBeer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                I am not actually that into the internet LOL...no really....can anyone compile a list of free speech cites that dont' censor? I know about Parler. I know about Gab.. now "voat" some others?

                                [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                Imageboards are always there for you. Thousands exist. Best bet would be 8chan-like imageboards because you are allowed to create your own communities there.

                                Below is a list of some boards I'd recommend. Stay the fuck away from 4chan and major/well-known boards because they're filled with kosher NSA psyop glowies. Boards with 8chan-like features are highlighted in big text.

                                8kun.top(be warned, many consider it a glowie honeypot. Its also literally hosted on Department of Defense servers)

                                FutabaChan
                                Nextchan

                                Endchan(Some people also consider Endchan to be filled with glowies)

                                [redacted ](This is the best board I could possibly recommend, but for selfish reasons, I will keep it to myself, because its more of a exiled/rare kind of board containing migrants from 8chan, and I and most users of the board would like to keep it that way)

                                [–]AsInBeer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                Just looking for a decent free speech text-oriented board where I can write my over-long, over-thought posts and maybe reach some people on important matters of current interest... anything like that?