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[–]AsInBeer 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (34 children)

If you don't allow the Nazis then there is no opportunity for people to refute them in public. Just think about it. You have to have faith in that open conversations and debate will bring the light to even the darkest minds. If you cut them out completely then the following will / will not happen.

No one will ever encounter what they think and begin to ponder it as it's actually presented and then dedicate themselves to refuting their ideas on their own terms, in terms they themselves accept as valid.

They will never encounter an intelligent counter to their beliefs that starts to work away at those beliefs.

No empathetic person can ever be given a chance to divine what they're really worried about / afraid of/ hopeful for and separate those things from the Nazi ideology which currently serves those needs.

You have to believe in the power of ideas and words to change minds and behavior. What else is there? War. Violence. Killing.

The whole point of free speech is the bomb defuser gets to examine the bomb, learn about it, be with it. think about it, sleep on it, dream about it, absorb it, grok it .... then finally diffuse it in a fit of inspiration and genius. This is what great writers do. This is what great thinkers do. But you can't cut them off from engaging with the raw material of what will later be their ultimate triumph.

Censoring ideas is one of the first things the Nazis did. That's because they know they can't withstand all minds which may come at them. Ditto Critical Theory fascists and fascists of all types. They amputate inquiry and speech because they know, deep inside themselves, that a better mind than theirs with clearer thoughts will eventually come along and they'll be defeneseless against them.

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    [–]antireddit 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (32 children)

    It depends on what you mean by Nazis. According to the mainstream left anyone who doesnt suck BLM dick is now a "nazi".

    [–]denverkris 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Anyone who doesn't believe that a man can be a woman is also a nazi.

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      [–]wrongthink 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

      I suspect most of them are larpers and shitposters who are doing it for some form of the lulz. I don't get the impression that these are the kinds of people who see the light of day very often so I'm not currently very concerned by them. They are predictable and annoying though and just out of a desire to ban low effort content I have little sympathy for them.

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        [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

        You are doing something right. Something most people on the internet just don't do. Edit: including Magnora

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          [–]AsInBeer 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

          It is dehumanizing and it also belies a disbelief that people can change and do change and change because of new content that gets into their minds through the spoken and written word.

          This is the operating system of society- this is the core of how culture works.

          [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          Yep, in effect this censorship by u/magnora7 is essentially an anti-social act. It is very very bad.

          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Me too, I'm a nazi and I'm interested in all viewpoints, especially to SPREAD THE TRUTH, but the admin is willfully turning this place into a censored POS site.

          [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          Nope, you are wrong. We are many and we are DEAD SERIOUS about spreading the TRUTH, no matter that YOU DON'T LIKE IT.

          [–]wrongthink 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          ok boomer

          [–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

          Call someone a nazi enough and they adopt it as a badge of honor. The image of nazism in their mind becomes warped to more resemble what they are rather than what the nazis were. The word has lost it's meaning, just like the word racist. It is used as a slur and an ad hominem. No different than someone replying to an argument by calling the other person the n word and thinking that constitutes a valid retort.

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            [–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

            Nazis are not known for their stance on government. They are known for having a very narrow view of who deserves to live based on ethnicity. They are known for violently perusing an agenda of ethnic cleansing, expansionism, and genocide.

            So the fact that you would call him a nazi for being a national socialist perfectly encapsulates my point of definition creep.

            [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            He put literal 1940s nazi propaganda posters as his banner image. Pictures of hitler smiling, and the wehrmacht army.

            There's no definition creep, the guy literally wants a literal nazi government and was openly promoting that.

            [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Well that is different then. But what he used to label the guy a nazi is still definition creep. If you see a black guy in a Mercedes and assume he must have stolen it, that is a racist assumption. If it turns out he did steal it that doesn't make your assumption less racist, it was still based on nothing but skin color.

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              [–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

              If you aren't grabbing crotches to identify people's gender before you address them you are doing it wrong. Also your assumption of my politics is ignorant. I fully acknowledge that gender dysphoria is really just schizophrenia, and should be treated the same as people who think they are Jesus Christ, or have a limb that doesn't belong to them.

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