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[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

Snowden is a limited hangout - he revealed NOTHING new, and Glenn Greenwald just handed over all the documents to his Intercept billionaire publisher with less than 10% of the leaks published. Further, Snowden does not condemn Greenwald nor the Intercept for dragging their feet, AND Snowden won't criticize the "official" narrative of 9/11 much less discuss the NDAA 2012 allowing domestic propaganda and psyops in the USA.

[–]ManWithABanana 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Wow - Snowden really gets you going doesn't he ?

All I see from this guy is an intelligent man who did what he thought he needed to do, fled the country, and has to be super disappointed in what happened afterwards. I've read a ton of your comments and I'm not getting what your problem is with him.

Edit : I see now. You think he's a CIA asset. Did I get it right ?

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Part 5

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He also in one interview which the censored John Bravo has mentioned is that Snowden has a Tor sticker (red flag) on his laptop. Tor is a honeypot created by the DoD. Why would someone so adamant about protecting themselves from intelligence agencies promote a DoD backed browser?

According to a letter from Dr. Leslie Sachs:

From: "Dr Les Sachs" ><l.sachs[at]inbox.lt>

Subject: Swiss gov letter: No Snowden asylum, he's a CIA fraud

To: info[at]pandodaily.com

And I paraphrase this letter:

  • Increase the sense of terrorism/blackmail among governments;

  • Promote CIA-tied media;

  • Entrap genuine dissidents;

The latter would be all too common with Snowden's handler, Glenn Greenwald, and his intelligence backed Intercept project, a start up by First Look media where they ratted out genuine whistleblowers. This will be further detailed at another time.

As for this aforementioned Dr. Leslie Sachs, he too has shady connections, him being quite fond of Rupert Murdoch. Murdoch is a proud Likudnik promoter and Zionist who has many connections to the real 9/11 perpetrators. He is also friends with Arnon Milchan, an Israeli Zionist who proudly admits his assistance in stealing US nuclear triggers for Israeli intelligence. Milchan directed 'Medusa's Touch' which predicted planes being flown into skyscrapers in New York City, he then went unto produce JFK, directed by Oliver Stone (real name: Oliver Silverstein), which whitewashed Mossad involvement in the assassination of JFK. In the 90's, Milchan produced 'Fight Club,' which is filled with 9/11 predictive programming, such as the demolition scene of skyscrapers in NYC at the very end of the movie, or the bombing of a high rise building in a preceding scene or the use of the term "Ground Zero" stated numerous times in synchronicity to the failed bombing attempt on the World Trade Center in the film. In the late 90's, Milchan with help from Rupert Murdoch produced the 'Lone Gunman.' A film that accurately predicts the alleged hijacking of passenger planes which would be flown into the upper third of the Twin Towers.

As for Sachs, he believes that there is a CIA oriented shadow government that quarrels between people like Rupert Murdoch. Statements such as these:

But the fact is, the CIA's Guardian newspaper, has been pushed to attack Murdoch in Great Britain, as a punishment and warning in revenge for Murdoch's 'excessive' pro-populist news in America.

or...

Murdoch had been giving 'too much' of what US citizens want to hear, and the CIA and US ruling families wanted to give him a strong slap.

or...

Rupert Murdoch is on notice he will be destroyed if he does not back off from 'too much' support for US Constitutionalists.

See that you may question everyone and everything in truth of discovery. You might just discover a ginormous counterintelligence program that seeks to control, confuse, discredit, disengage, anger, and surveil legitimate dissenters.

Ask yourself, were the Snowden leaks supposed to trigger a revolt against the police-state-surveillance apparatus, did they? No, far from it. Instead, they enhanced the centralization and power of this apparatus.

In a subsidiary counterintelligence operation, anonymous social media users claimed that Snowden was assassinated by a drone strike in Hong kong. Many of these social media posts would feature hashtags praising Snowden as a renegade and cheerleader for truth and justice. The purpose of this deliberate false story was to further socially engineer persons into believing that Snowden truly was on the side of the people -- written in stone, implanted into the subconscious-- for lack of a better term.

http://t.co/DtJPfZj1n5?

What are some ways in which the oligarchy might utilize a limited hangout operation to fulfill an agenda? One such way is to broadcast that ISIS (Da'esh) learned from Snowden. Anyone accused of inspiring ISIS would certainly want to contend such a statement and yet Snowden is silent.

http://t.co/HzO86kTOH7?

These operation mockingbird like broadcasts are further substantiated in cryptic form by the overt shilling of public desensitization campaigns concerning surveillance programs.

"...records of phone numbers, call dates, times and durations would be retained by telecommunications companies..."

http://t.co/ESj2jaREF4?

Thus, the NSA will simply use the back doors they installed on all the telecommunications companies in order to analyze metadata in real time.

To followup on this broadcast, a clear PsyOp is propgandized to push the agenda that communications must be monitored for security reasons.

PSYOP—

"...imperative that we monitor the use of digital/social communications to combat ISIS' growing influence..."

https://t.co/joCkUUazHb?

[–]ManWithABanana 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Tor is a honeypot created by the DoD.

There's one I haven't heard. It's starting to sound like you're telling me nothing is what it seems.

Ah, now we're really getting to Snowden :

Ask yourself, were the Snowden leaks supposed to trigger a revolt against the police-state-surveillance apparatus, did they? No, far from it. Instead, they enhanced the centralization and power of this apparatus.

This is a spot on observation.

Were they supposed to trigger the revolt ? Yes, they were.

Did they ? No, far from it.

You forgot the why. Snowden underestimated how apathetic the American public is about things they don't understand. He underestimated Congress et al's ability to dismantle the bureaucracy and intelligence gathering apparatus.

The central problem is that government wants/needs these kind of tools for intelligence purposes. So the people involved create cock-and-bull stories about why it's all OK and then built the infrastructure. It succeeded well beyond anything I had ever imagined. And my congressmen, along with all the rest I assume, is presented with a difficult choice to make among hundreds of other competing priorities. They chose to blow the whole thing off with "reforms" that bureaucracies know don't matter and preserve the central purpose of the structure.

So today, we have to understand that officialdom, from the CIA to local law enforcement, will literally be able to read everything we put into the computer. And it's not what you're doing today, it's what you've written for your entire life. Along with every other digital scrap that gets attached like pictures, video, and spreadsheets. Does local law enforcement have that access today ? I'm not sure, but I'm also very sure that it's coming if not.

What are some ways in which the oligarchy might utilize a limited hangout operation to fulfill an agenda?

I don't know. I don't care.

Every bureacracy performs damage control when something happens to screw things up. So the NSA/CIA/etc did damage control. Why should I care ? I'm still aware everything on the 'net gets hoovered up and stored. And the three letter agencies want to continue to do it. They successfully rode out the storm and the average citizen now thinks none of it matters.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

And you fine with Snowden saysing:

Whistleblowrs should be kicked in the balls.

Or that;

He was scared when he got out of the car in, I believe, the Uk, because of muslims.

The guy's rhetoric seems more akin to a Booz Alan Hamilton hack, the company that the 9/11 perp Rabbi Dov Zackheim worked for, than a real whistleblower.

I invite you to search Ethan Serone's twitter posts on Snowden, he has thousands illustrating far more than what I can say here, that he is a limoted hangout, or even better, ChrisRulon's posts.

[–]ManWithABanana 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The guy's rhetoric seems more akin to a Booz Alan Hamilton hack, the company that the 9/11 perp Rabbi Dov Zackheim worked for, than a real whistleblower.

I thought that was the company he DID work for. But I'm not crazy about that kind of rhetoric, that's true.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, he did. But some of Snowden's rhetoric seems very much what a neocon would say, and he is hush, hush when it comes to them or the DoD backed blowback theory which he conveniently pushes.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

There's one I haven't heard.

You should look into it. It's legit compromised. TOR is anything but secure.

Snowden underestimated how apathetic the American public is about things they don't understand.

The Hanlon's razor excuse, "failing in stupidity", but as always "naturally" accidentally favouring the ruling class.