USA: Donald Trump plans to drop charges against whistleblower Edward Snowden

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[–]ManWithABanana 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Tor is a honeypot created by the DoD.

There's one I haven't heard. It's starting to sound like you're telling me nothing is what it seems.

Ah, now we're really getting to Snowden :

Ask yourself, were the Snowden leaks supposed to trigger a revolt against the police-state-surveillance apparatus, did they? No, far from it. Instead, they enhanced the centralization and power of this apparatus.

This is a spot on observation.

Were they supposed to trigger the revolt ? Yes, they were.

Did they ? No, far from it.

You forgot the why. Snowden underestimated how apathetic the American public is about things they don't understand. He underestimated Congress et al's ability to dismantle the bureaucracy and intelligence gathering apparatus.

The central problem is that government wants/needs these kind of tools for intelligence purposes. So the people involved create cock-and-bull stories about why it's all OK and then built the infrastructure. It succeeded well beyond anything I had ever imagined. And my congressmen, along with all the rest I assume, is presented with a difficult choice to make among hundreds of other competing priorities. They chose to blow the whole thing off with "reforms" that bureaucracies know don't matter and preserve the central purpose of the structure.

So today, we have to understand that officialdom, from the CIA to local law enforcement, will literally be able to read everything we put into the computer. And it's not what you're doing today, it's what you've written for your entire life. Along with every other digital scrap that gets attached like pictures, video, and spreadsheets. Does local law enforcement have that access today ? I'm not sure, but I'm also very sure that it's coming if not.

What are some ways in which the oligarchy might utilize a limited hangout operation to fulfill an agenda?

I don't know. I don't care.

Every bureacracy performs damage control when something happens to screw things up. So the NSA/CIA/etc did damage control. Why should I care ? I'm still aware everything on the 'net gets hoovered up and stored. And the three letter agencies want to continue to do it. They successfully rode out the storm and the average citizen now thinks none of it matters.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

And you fine with Snowden saysing:

Whistleblowrs should be kicked in the balls.

Or that;

He was scared when he got out of the car in, I believe, the Uk, because of muslims.

The guy's rhetoric seems more akin to a Booz Alan Hamilton hack, the company that the 9/11 perp Rabbi Dov Zackheim worked for, than a real whistleblower.

I invite you to search Ethan Serone's twitter posts on Snowden, he has thousands illustrating far more than what I can say here, that he is a limoted hangout, or even better, ChrisRulon's posts.

[–]ManWithABanana 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The guy's rhetoric seems more akin to a Booz Alan Hamilton hack, the company that the 9/11 perp Rabbi Dov Zackheim worked for, than a real whistleblower.

I thought that was the company he DID work for. But I'm not crazy about that kind of rhetoric, that's true.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, he did. But some of Snowden's rhetoric seems very much what a neocon would say, and he is hush, hush when it comes to them or the DoD backed blowback theory which he conveniently pushes.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

There's one I haven't heard.

You should look into it. It's legit compromised. TOR is anything but secure.

Snowden underestimated how apathetic the American public is about things they don't understand.

The Hanlon's razor excuse, "failing in stupidity", but as always "naturally" accidentally favouring the ruling class.