Here is how I ended up here.

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[–]TheBeefBenson 18 insightful - 10 fun18 insightful - 9 fun19 insightful - 10 fun -  (5 children)

Welcome. We've got radical feminists, neo nazis, Christian conservatives and not a lot else. The only thing anyone has in common here is that they're all anti-porn... and they don't employ much nuance when they come to defining it.

I only come here because I'm "gender critical" (from a non ideological standpoint) and was given the impression you didn't have to be a radical feminist to get along in the GC community. This is not the case.

I've go to Ruqqus mostly and it feels like there's less of an extreme there. You do still get people from the fringes but the centre feels a lot more fleshed out there.

[–]JustWhy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I really wish there was a neutral gender critical sub. I'm a feminist but I dislike the GC hatred of men and not feminists btw. I always believed there is more to be gained from meeting in the middle. Yes I guess there is value in a women's only discussion space but I strongly feel that we have more to gain from everyone discussing being gender critical right now. Please don't be turned off from it.

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    [–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    The biggest harm the feminist movement has done is telling men that they are the same as women or that they deserve equal treatment.
    This is a fantasy, society doesn't agree and women don't agree. Both might say they agree but they don't.
    The world doesn't work that way which is why it's extremely damaging for boys to learn such a lie from young age.

    [–]dazedandsubdued 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    could you explain further? men and women don't deserve equal treatment?

    [–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Sure, I could. Men and women are unequal both in society and in the relationships. This is a function of nature.

    Laws that treat men and women as if we were equals when we are unequals are not really giving "equal treatment".

    An example of a law that is "equal" could be that after a divorce the man and the woman splits the wealth 50:50.
    This law treats men and women equally so how is that unfair?

    Men and women don't go into relationships as equals. Women usually date richer men and men with higher social status than them.
    A divorce law as mentioned above would hence be extremely beneficial to women as a group and very harmful to men as a group - despite seemingly treating men and women "equally".