How divisive have we become. Have you lost friends over your viewpoints?

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[–][deleted] 23 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

i have a friend who i haven't necessarily lost, but i avoid talking about politics with him because our friendship would be fucked if we did. he heavily supports trans rights and wants to be a girl. he recently told me he was "non-bianary" which is some of the dumbest bullshit i've ever heard of. i didn't say that to his face as that would be rude, but it's still idiotic.

he unironically thinks that trans people should be allowed to participate in sports of the gender they claim to be. we got into a relatively heated argument about it and like most people who are for it, he couldn't think of any valid counter points. it was just "but they said that they're a boy/girl!!" which obviously doesn't mean shit when you still have the physical strength of your original gender. i just dropped the topic and decided that he's not someone worth debating over stuff like that. we're still on good terms as we have a lot of similar interests and play games together, it just kinda sucks that he's been brainwashed by twitter users with cartoon characters in front of pride flags for profile pictures.

[–]Girlwiththeraventat 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Have you asked him why he wants to be a girl? I'm curious about where the whole new wave of all these boys/men wanting to be women is coming from. I mean I obviously know from toxic echo chambers but what are the reasons they give other people. What does being a girl even mean to them? I also find it curious there are more men wanting to be women than women wanting to be men.

It's sad your friend can't discuss that topic other than repeating what they hear online. Saying they feel a certain way doesn't negate biology. I hope your friend can breakaway from the groupthink before they do something drastic like take hormones. Maybe it is worth having a gentle debate just so he hears another side. The hormones and surgery are very serious and the fact that you can buy hormones online without medical supervision is outrageous and extremely dangerous.

[–]henna_mikata 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I’m a woman and would love to be a man. Lol

Physical strength, taken more seriously by people, no expectation to be a caretaker or mother, don’t lose muscle as easily, more vitality from T, no periods, orgasm more easily...

But on the other hand, I can just be a woman who does whatever the fuck she wants ;)

[–]Girlwiththeraventat 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

See that was my thought, if we get to chose willy nilly now that more women would choose to be men. I like being a woman and wouldn't want to be a man. I do feel like there are less disadvantages to being a man.

[–]v3r3na 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

I disagree with this. Having a son made me more aware that both sexes have disadvantages that cannot always be compared. Males are at a higher risk of disease, disability and death at all ages. Even the risk of miscarriage is higher if you're pregnant with a boy rather than a girl. It also depends on what you want to do with your life. I wouldn't want to miss the experience of pregnancy and breastfeeding. I've never felt such a powerful and satisfying connection. I also feel more balanced than before. This doesn't mean that all women will share this experience. Every individual has different life circumstances. I don't think it always helps to try to quantify how much one group is disadvantaged compared to another because their are huge individual differences and differing perspective on whether something is an advantage or disadvantage.

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Wait, someone making sense on the internet?