If any man's money can be taken by a so-called government without his own personal consent, all his other rights are taken with it; for with his money the government can and will hire soldiers to stand over him compel him to submit to its arbitrary will and kill him if he resists. - Lysander Spooner

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (36 children)

The solution is, obviously, to pull out of the middle east, not abolish roads.

If it's too cold, Libertarians would burn down the whole house...

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    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

    We need more checks and balances, to give power back to the states, and a new electoral system. What we don't need is to burn the whole country down.

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      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

      The Anarchists who want to abolish taxes.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      and the people against roads, which is a new low for stupidity I have just read.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Yeah... I can't believe they legitimately are arguing against roads. I made a joke that we need taxes to pave roads, and then they're like "but roads are evil!" because it fits their far-right, Anarchist agenda.

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      No one is fully against roads on this thread. We are saying there are way too many roads, and that these vast numbers of roads are shit and actually harm man and the nature.

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        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

        Okay, then. It seems some Libertarians retain some level of sanity.

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          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

          I'm anti-authoritarian, but I'm an individualist

          That's literally what Libertarianism is.

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              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

              I can agree with that to some extent. The military budget is way too large, and the federal government has too much power. I prefer to return power to the states, rather than burn the whole country down.

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

              then you would want to remove power from the states and give it to cities. then remove power from cities and give it to villages. reduction absurdem.

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

              Don't assume things about me.

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

              nah it's a safe assumption

              you haven't thought things out to their logical conclusions

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

              No, it's not, and I have no idea what you're talking about.

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

              explain your views then

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

              The US is fifty states, not one; the federal government has stolen the sovereignty of the states, and it must be taken back. The tenth amendment must be enforced, not ignored.

              The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

              do you then think things like USA shouldn't have it's own military, can't have treaties that effect all states etc, do you think they are 50 separate countries and the union of states means nothing, do you ignore the rest of the constitution and amendments?

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

              This house is made of glass, Amelia. It is cracking as we speak.

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

              It's made of wood, but the wood is full of termites.

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              No, it is glass. You look at it, and you think you see beautiful nature at play, but you are looking at weak glass. It is cracking.

              And anyways, with your wood analogy, the house would have to be torn down completely, and all new materials would have to be used. If this is a termite infestation, I don't see any wood anymore. I see walls of termites.