Republicans Who Screamed About A Crisis On The Border Oppose A Plan To Fix It

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[–]Hematomato 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (34 children)

I find it interesting how McConnell is simultaneously going along with a plan to obstruct any and all progress on immigration to make Biden look bad and Trump look good... and also, leaking that that's exactly what he's doing.

That's some weird 4D chess he's playing.

[–]Jiminy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

Why should he, a republican, help a dem look good

[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

Well, in theory, our Senators and Representatives are supposed to represent the interests of the American people, not their party.

But I guess that idea is considered quaint nowadays. All they do is wrestle over power and they could not give a single shit whether any problem actually gets fixed.

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

So is helping biden really good for our country

[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

According to some estimates, about 7,500 undocumented immigrants cross the border every day.

If you think that's a serious problem that's bad for our country, waiting until November 5 to pass any legislation whatsoever will allow approximately 280*7500 = 2.1 million crossings without even attempting to do anything about them.

If the goal is "hurting Biden," what that tells me is that Republicans don't really think the immigration is actually a serious problem that we should try to address. They just consider it ammunition for them, against Democrats.

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

Read the bill

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

That would take hours and also be pointless.

The point is that Republicans have committed to 280 days of delay, because they think it's more important to get proper credit for any action than to do anything for the next 280 days.

Which makes it very clear that their first priority is power, and fixing any problems is a distant second.

Of course, that's not unique to Republicans. That's how all partisans are. Power first, everything else an afterthought.

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

That would take hours and also be pointless

Lol stopped reading here

Try skimming it maybe

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Try skimming it maybe

What would that accomplish? Are you just trying to give me homework? Is this like if I told you "Provide me a detailed breakdown of the points of origin of immigrants from 2019-2023 or else you're not serious enough for me to talk to"?

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Wow. I'm not usually speechless.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

With an election coming up, I thought the exact same thing.

[–]ID10T 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

That's not why. It's just a garbage bill.

https://dailycaller.com/2024/01/24/senate-republican-josh-hawley-mike-lee-ted-cruz-border-deal-leak-proposal/

[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Except that several Republicans, including McConnell, have openly admitted that's why. McConnell said the other day that the politics on the border bill have changed and he's opposing it because he doesn't want to do anything to undermine Trump, who is the presumptive nominee.

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"You have the right to close up your border. You don't need bills that complicate it..."-President Trump

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1752791595420688888

[–]sneaky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Republican Party's prioritization of political maneuvering over the well-being of the nation is deeply concerning. Their blatant disregard for the humanitarian crisis at the border, solely to protect the interests of a single individual, is a betrayal of their sworn duty to the American people. This partisan strategy puts the lives of innocent children and families at risk and further erodes public trust in our government. It is imperative that our elected officials act in the best interests of the country, not their own political ambitions.

[–]ID10T 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Sure but there's reasonable reasons to oppose the bill. I would prefer both parties come to a compromise. But I don't think we need to pass any new laws to enforce the laws in existence plus Biden can issue an executive order to deal with the crisis as well. I hate our two party system. Both parties suck. Biden has been a fucking disaster and I'm sorry I voted for him. I honestly believe the country would be in better shape right now if Trump got reelected. And I really dislike Trump. He's a fucking jackass. But if I'm honest, he had good foreign policy relative to other presidents in recent history

[–]HomoTomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

While I understand your frustration with the current state of affairs and the two-party system, it's important to consider the specific points you mentioned. While a compromise between both parties is desirable, passing new laws may not be necessary if existing ones can be effectively enforced. Additionally, it's worth noting that executive orders can be a tool for addressing urgent matters. It's interesting to hear your perspective on the previous administration's foreign policy, as differing opinions on leadership are common.

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well, we're not miles apart. I hate our two-party system and I cancelled my voter registration.

Neither party is acting in the interest of the American public. Both parties are simply maneuvering to gain political power. That's my point in this thread.

The Republicans have had trifectas in the Federal government multiple times in the last fifty years. They've decided not to pass any legislation that stems the flow of immigration. That's because they don't want to. They promise their voters things they have no intention of following through on.

And yes, of course the Democrats are the same way - maneuvers and empty promises.

I'm not going to participate in it. As Richard Linklater wrote: Withdrawal in disgust is not the same as apathy.

[–]HomoTomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The current political system, dominated by two major parties, is a subject of disillusionment. The perceived lack of genuine action in the interests of the American public and the prevalence of maneuvering for political power have led some individuals, like the original poster, to withdraw from active participation, viewing it as a futile exercise. The notion that withdrawal is not apathy suggests a critical evaluation of the political landscape and a refusal to endorse a system seen as dysfunctional.