Non-woke liberals describe 'living hell' caused by Minneapolis homeless encampments

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[–]MagicMike 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

“But…but…I didn’t know they’d live in MY neighborhood!”

And now cops won’t defend the libs because of what they did to Chauvin.

Wallow in it, lib scum!

[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I find it strange that so many conservatives think that homeless encampments are the problem, rather than the symptom of the problem.

[–]ID10T 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I have never heard anyone say that. Also these people being interviewed seem far from conservative. They are victims of the local governments lack of dealing with the symptoms of the homeless problem.

[–]Alienhunter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's more a case where you'll get people clamoring for the local government to clean up the homelessness encampments, typically takes the form of various anti-vagrancy laws that function to sweep the homeless under the rug so to speak, or rather to push them to another town and let it be their problem (free bus tickets for the homeless programs and the like).

Actually dealing with the problem effectively at a grassroots level would involve a multifaceted approach that would require you to identify the homeless as those who are homeless by circumstance, homeless by means of insanity drug related or otherwise, or homeless due to personal choice, and your approach to each group needs to differ accordingly, in the first case giving them free housing and the like is effective as they'll get back to being productive citizens once they stabilize their life, the second, requires you to institutionalize them or at the very least provide them with treatment for their aliment, the latter case you can safely do nothing about as once you deal with the former categories the number of truly lazy "I don't wanna work types" is small and instead you get people who prefer a vagrant lifestyle for whatever reason, they're typically not going to be the ones causing issues and can simply be ignored.

[–]ID10T 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

In CA there are many outreach programs that provide housing at least in the form of temporary shelter. You can ask any outreach worker, the offer of housing is usually refused. Homeless are often mentally ill and/or drug addicts and the addicts would prefer to stay in their open air drug markets where they can do their drugs.

Those people have to be given the choice between treatment and housing or forced treatment and confinement. Camping on sidewalks cannot be an option.

You cannot keep giving out carrots with no sticks. Many drug addicts love the lifestyle.

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree you need the stick. In this case if people are refusing housing due to drug addiction or another mental malady then they need to be institutionalized. I think the choice you give them is easy, they can go to housing, they can go to hospital, or they can go to jail. Which do you want?

And obviously you take their drugs away from them. I'm somewhat keen on the idea of not tossing drug users into prison en masse as I don't think it helps much but that only works if you actually have cops arresting and confiscating drugs from everyone who even tries to use them in public.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Because you have been brainwashed into believing that the homeless are just like every other working person except that they have been victimized into being homeless. That is an absurd lie.

The homeless choose to not work. They choose to do drugs they can't afford. There are already homeless shelters everywhere, but they don't take drug users. There are already rehab facilities that will help them get off of drugs, but they don't want that. They can't hold down a job because they choose to get high every day. Their choices are the problem.

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Spoken like someone who's never spent any time with street people.

[–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good, they deserve it.

[–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (40 children)

It's not 'woke' to support homeless encampments and crime. That was never the meaning of the term.

It's an excellent report about problems people face with these encampments. The title is stupid.

[–]Canbot 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

Yes it is. Woke is feelings over facts. And when you look at homelessness through the lense of wokeness all that is allowed is feeling bad for them. That is, of course, spun as empathy by the woke cult. And from the perspective of "empathy" your hands are tied to do anything that feels like it might hurt the "victims". Ironically you are not allowed to feel bad about all the evil those victims are doing.

[–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

No it's not. The 'woke' approach it not defined in this odd circular mental gymnastic way. By definition, a "woke" person is merely "alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination." That's it. No convoluted theory about empathy as a spin tactic (WTF). All "woke" people would side with the lady in the video who had her place attacked, because she's a victim of "injustice". Regarding homess encampments, that's a problem for the city to solve. Because rent it too expensive for many in the US, thanks to late stage capitalism and a lack of regulations, each city is required to sort out it's homeless population problem. This has absolutely nothing to do with wokeness. And that lady was a victim of it. What far right assholes want you to believe is that the homeless encampments and victims burglaries are somehow related to protesting black people four years ago. It's not related. What's needed is for politicians to do their fucking jobs, rather than rely on wealthy donors to promote online stupid unlerelated theories about wokeness.

[–]ID10T 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Woke now means libtard. Like anyone who unironically refers to "late-stage capitalism" is a Marxist, woke libtard. Like Marxism has just never been done right guys! It will definitely, certainly work this time! And totally won't go to shit killing millions of people like those other times! Source: trust me guys!

[–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

No - that's not what it means.

That's what political groups are manipulating you into thinking it means. It's a simple concept, politicized by the far right for their purposes, to convert people into whiney, sniveling complainers about a 'woke' concept they've redefined for you. It's relates to something 4 years ago. It's unrelated to the far right crybaby manifesto.

[–]ID10T 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Sorry that's what woke means to everyone now. As with many words, it's meaning has changed. Just how the woke have changed the meaning of gender to be something other than sex. Nothing you can do about it. Accept it means how people now understand it and carry on.

[–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

If you can apply 'woke' to most anything, it has no meaning. Far right assholes want to apply 'woke' to imaginary approaches to poor people. It's an OLD tactic to get people fighting over class issues, known as 'class warfare'. It would be important at this point to 'wake up' and see the manipulation from the right for this kind of word. No, you cannot apply it to poor people, to the treatment of criminals, to homeless tent cities, to anything unrelated to its original meaning. It's not shorthand for the 'other', or liberal or whatever extremely BROAD RANGE of anything you want to apply it to. That's ridiculous. It's childish. Use normal language, rather than this manipulative BULLSHIT.

[–]ID10T 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

You sound pretty woke.

[–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You obviously have no argument.

[–]ID10T 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No u

[–]topiary2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Muh far right. Do you even hear yourself?

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

By definition,

By who's definition? There is a reason studies that are based on self reporting are mostly wrong. Obviously the woke are going to insist on a definition that enforces their propaganda and self delusions. That definition is undescriptive at best, and absolutely inconsistent with reality. Literally everyone is aware of discrimination and injustice and everyone cares. The difference comes down to believing the most incorrect and radical claims about those things. So what defines the woke are those things that make them say and act in ways divorced from the general public. Divorced from reality.

Arguably the woke are less concerned about injustice than others. For starters the woke are absolutely unconcerned with injustices and discrimination against white people. They think racism against white people is a valid tool to "correct the injustices of the past". Nearly everything the woke do is designed to be anti white. And when it comes to justifying that racism they regularly use racist tools like group guilt and unsubstantiated and racist claims of group privilege.

When it comes to discussions about what the causes and solutions are to any problem the woke distinguish themselves from everyone else by being completely hostile towards provable facts when those facts challenge their race theory propaganda. The woke stand in the way of viable long term solution. There is no valuable definition of woke that does not include that fundamental nature of those engulfed in that ideology. That is the part of the woke most relevant to the definition because that is what distinguishes them the most from everyone else.

Your "definition" is nothing more than an accusation that those who are not woke don't care. That is a lie. Your "definition" is nothing more than propaganda.

[–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We don't make up the definition. It's a term used 4 years ago. It's not related to criminals.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Your "definition" is nothing more than an accusation that those who are not woke don't care. That is a lie. Your "definition" is nothing more than propaganda.

This is an accurate summary of the cognitive dissonance.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

All "woke" people would side with the lady in the video who had her place attacked,

What do you mean "side with her"? Do you even understand that that concept on it's own is meaningless tribalism?

Are they going to side with her to make homeless encampments illegal? I doubt that. So how are they "siding with her exactly?"

This will probably be far too deep for you to grasp, but the fact that you speak this way reveals a thought pattern that is the foundation for far left ideological radicalism. You believe (but may not understand that you believe) that feeling empathy for someone puts you and them into the same tribe. Your thought pattern is fundamentally tribalism. Your assumption is that if you were not in the same tribe you would not feel empathy, thus feeling empathy is evidence that you see them as in your tribe and therefore you are "on their side. That humans only act in the interest of those in their tribe, and always act in the interest of their tribe.

With people like you she is only in the tribe until she fails to adhere to the woke rules, then you will turn on her like hyenas and say it's good that her home was destroyed; that she deserved it.

[–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

hahaha - you're over-thinking this

there was a crime committed

there are homeless encampments

none of this is woke

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Because rent it too expensive for many in the US, thanks to late stage capitalism

There is absolutely nothing just about people who refuse to work and choose to indulge in drugs all day instead of participating in society in any functional way demanding to live in the city of their choice. They hurt everyone around them. They are not victims, they are narcissistic parasites.

Rent is always "too expensive" when you refuse to work, it has nothing to do with capitalism.

[–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

dude - you're way too passionate about this nothingburger about wokeness

it ain't a woke problem

it's a criminal and city and late stage capitalism problem

[–]topiary2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

More marxist keywords. Who have you actually convinced with that stupid ass rhetoric?

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This has absolutely nothing to do with wokeness.

Soft on crime, soft on homelessness laws are the result of anti logical, anti factual woke lobbying. It is driven by woke lies. It is driven by the suppression of facts by the woke.

For most of those people homelessness is a lifestyle choice. A choice that goes hand in hand with criminality, violence, and a road that makes them progressively more violent, immoral, destructive and evil. It is wokeness that causes people to deny all of these facts with completely irrelevant arguments like "they are victims of such and such". None of those excuses change anything, but the woke will always stonewall any discussion of any problem with irrelevant arguments like that. Then they claim that those who don't participate with that stonewalling "just dont care".

[–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You have no direct evidence linking a "woke" requirement with police policy. Police policy is NOT governed by a commisson on wokeness, ffs. They're governed by the city. It's basic civics. You can't just make up hidden causes for something you don't like.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The direct evidence is that red cities don't have these problems on this scale.

[–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

False (again)

Please look up a claim like this before making it.

Republican mayors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mayors_of_the_50_largest_cities_in_the_United_States

Dallas tent cities: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=homeless+tents+dallas

Fort Worth: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=homeless+tents+fort+worth

Oklahoma City: https://www.bing.com/search?form=MOZLBR&pc=MOZI&q=oklahoma+city+homeless+tents

[–]topiary2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Now try to explain away the defund the police that crybaby woketivists ushered unto their shitholes.

[–]RR_2023[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

It is part of the program to tear down America, so it is related. But I get your point.

[–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Is there any direct evidence that those who want to be "woke" (alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination) are trying to "tear down America"?

Isn't the primary purpose of being more alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination intended to improve the US?

[–]Oyveygoyim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

"Isn't the primary purpose of being more alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination intended to improve the US"?

Show me how that has improved the country? It has only made things worse.

[–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Show me how that has improved the country?

WTF?

How about, the legal requirement in the US: innocent until proven guilty

[–]topiary2 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thats what the woketards are trying to destroy.

[–]Oyveygoyim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Which has been around since the Roman Empire...

The Romans didn't introduce it to protect violent niggers and spics like you want to do.

[–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

you know absolutely nothing about history, which is perhaps why you're the way you are

[–]Oyveygoyim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lol the vast majority of history are lies written by the winners of wars. Unlike in all your favorite jew propaganda tv shows and movies...the bad guys usually win.

[–]RR_2023[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Is there any direct evidence that those who want to be "woke" (alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination) are trying to "tear down America"?

More evidence than a lot of things claimed by the liberals.

Isn't the primary purpose of being more alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination intended to improve the US?

No.

[–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

False on both accounts

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

No it's woke.

The idea is that systemic oppression causes problems for homeless people so you remove the enforcement of laws and any interference with them to remove the oppression.

[–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's not 'woke' to steal from that lady, or to ransack her house, or to discuss those events, or to live in a homeless encampment, or to discuss the homeless encampment, or to allow people to live in a homeless encampment, or to discuss problems that led up the homeless. The problem is for the city to resolve.

[–]topiary2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Woketivisim in a nutshell.

[–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

six stupid, trolling comments from you in the past 15 minutes

boring

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I think so. The problem is that you get a lot of people in priveledged liberal bubbles with little real life experience going down the "wouldn't it be nice if we were nicer to people?" path because they are priveledged to not have to experience the worse elements of society or have the idea of a "necessary evil" enter their world. The problem is they try to make rules for everyone else.

It works just long enough for them to be the victim then they usually go full fascist which is why cities even supposedly liberal ones are just filled with tons of inhumane shit like spikes on park benches to stop homeless from sleeping on them. They're treating the homeless like they treat pigeons, it's only a matter of time before they justify calling the exterminator.

And it could be fixed if you didn't get the bleeding heart types bristling at the idea of sending people to the hospital involuntarily. Yeah that lady is screaming and wailing about being detained and it's horrible, but she's doing that because she's crazy and if you don't send her to hospital then she's just going to die on the street.

[–]topiary2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Its woke.