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[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That's a really interesting perspective. I'm so fucking happy to be on saidit. This is literally the first time in months, maybe years, that I've seen a really interesting perspective.

I'm from a very different background from you. Almost everyone I know is a Democrat and/or a liberal. I only personally know one conservative and three or four moderates. So to me, 2020 and 2023 feel... kind of the same as each other, honestly. I can't see a sea change there. And I guess that's because I used to talk to conservatives and Republicans online almost every day, but after the the January 6 event they sort of vanished/were forced off the mainstream Internet and I can't get into their spaces because I can't adopt their writing styles or pass their loyalty tests. So I literally don't know what they're like anymore.

I really do feel like 2013 was the last time things felt sane. I really see it in the TV shows. Coming into 2014, BoJack Horseman and Game of Thrones and Orange is the New Black were fun and smart. They existed to entertain. They were well-written. Within a few years, they were all grotesque parodies of themselves, falling over themselves to explain why their early seasons were Not Okay. And almost every word written by television/movie/game writers in the last ten years has been absolute fucking shit. It's like it's become a social crime to write something fun and smart.

Before 2014, I would have vociferously disagreed that Democrats were threatening our freedoms. They generally believed in free speech. They believed in definance, in punk rock attitudes, in living and letting live. And then within a few short years, they didn't believe in any of that stuff anymore and somehow acted like nothing changed. They're completely blind to what is absolutely, blatantly obvious to me.

2014-2016 were.. Tumblr. Sarkeesian. GamerGate. Elliot Rodger. Michael Brown. Obergefell. The Alt-Right. Caitlyn Jenner. And topping off the whole shit sundae: Donald Trump. And they just lost sight of everything they used to believe in. Within a few years, they went from freedom-loving Americans to paranoid authoritarians.

That's how I see it, anyway. And I think it's fascinating that you're seeing a similar sea change in the Right over the past three years - one that's totally invisible to me.

For what it's worth, I suspect I'd like you just fine. That and five bucks will get you a cup of coffee.

[–]DirewolfGhost 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Woe to you who add house to house and join field to field until no place is left and you live alone in the land.

9I heard the LORD of Hosts declare: “Surely many houses will become desolate, great mansions left unoccupied.

They disregard the actions of the LORD and fail to see the work of His hands.

13Therefore My people will go into exile for their lack of understanding;

It has happened before and it will happen again.

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about.

[–]DirewolfGhost 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Its from Isaiah (OT Bible book). It simultaneously describes the situation you find yourself in, the death (or emptying) of the internet, the way to write to pass in the circles you don't fit in as well as the exile of the right from the internet.

Hope that helps.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I can totally believe that the Democrats went through a similar shift in 2014. I was too young to engage in politics then, so I wouldn't remember it.