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[–]hfxB0oyAPirate Party 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

These people are stacking up the powder kegs inside their own houses and lighting the fuse.

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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[–]UncleWillard56 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

12? I'm surprised it's that high.

[–]Circlesbadnews 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Same. Figures they were more of the "before 8 or it's too late" type of pedos.

[–]aaarrgh 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

me too, I thought it was 6

[–]Fiyanggu 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Don't let the fringe dictate the rules for the bulk of the population.

[–]Circlesbadnews 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If the law won't stop people from SAing your children, you have the moral obligation to.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wonder if no one ever does anything or if the news is suppressed.

[–]SoCo 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

12 year olds cannot be legally left home alone in my state, since a couple years ago.

[–]Enemycupcake 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Your not even allowed to leave them for a short amount of time, like less than an hour? 12 is really old to not be able to leave the kid at home to run an errand

[–]SoCo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

(Illinois) Technically, no, yet all law enforcement and child protective services have leeway through discretion. This includes leaving your child in a car to run into the store, an application of this law that I've witnessed used against a local acquaintance. They enacted as law that the age to be left unsupervised is now like 16 (maybe 15). Previously, there was no set age, and each case was left to discretion. Previously, Child Protective Services would tell you they had the general unwritten rule of 11 years old for that, but based heavily on circumstance. Yet, now it is legally codified to higher.

[–]Enemycupcake 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Damn. In Maryland it's 8. I guess maybe Illinois was just occasionally running into specific situations they didn't like, since it's at their discretion? I can't imagine a non-special needs middle schooler that wouldn't be able to handle themselves for a little while.

[–]SoCo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I find it baffling, but then I see some people's kids that are much older and incapable. There is no specific discretion in the law, the law is strait forward, but all police, prosecutors, and most of the time the caseworkers, have some levels of assumed-reasonable discretion expressly given to them for their application of all rules and law.

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    [–]BISH 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    It's under penalty is perjury, so there's some risk.

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      [–]BISH 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      It's a witness at a hearing. Testifying about the nonprofit policy.

      [–]BISH 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      The state has as "property right" in every citizen.

      They can justify this through this legal deception.