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[–]johnnybravo 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Does this not violate any "traffic neutrality" laws? I remember in my country they fined a bunch of operators because they deliberately gave lower priority (slower internet, more dropped calls) to traffic from their new and very hot competitor.

Also, just a thought, do other URLs work? Could it be that there is some kind of spam filter? If there have been enough cases of people being scammed through SMSs, some operators may temporarily ban URLs. Unfortunately, .win differs from the usual .com and .org, and might be accidentally flagged as spam. I am sure not many of you will click on a link to www.google-search.win

[–]Haikuchebag 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

"Net neutrality"

Is the term you're looking for.

And we don't have it.

[–]xv_xx 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We don't have it because Ajit Pai killed it.

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yeah, this is free speech, not net neutrality

[–]AcceleratedWallops 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Biden promised to restore Net Neutrality.

[–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

not net neutrality, this is active filtering of key words, so a free speech issue

[–]AcceleratedWallops 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Net neutrality protects against these kinds of shenanigans.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Show me where, in the legislation, thanks

[–]AcceleratedWallops 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Dude I'm not your legal clerk. But the principle of net neutrality is you tell the ISP to send these packets and they send the damn packets. If they are filtering packets for any reason, including a keyword filter, then they are violating net neutrality.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That's your principle of net neutrality.

Our net is already censored to remove illegal content, such as CP etc. (Or are you also advocating for illegal content? Because if this is some diehard libertarian thing, you can just stop now), so the idea that all data should be treated equally will never be met, nor should it.

If we go by wikipedia, which represents the 'liberal democratic' world view:

"Network neutrality, most commonly called net neutrality, is the principle that Internet service providers (ISPs) must treat all Internet communications equally, and not discriminate or charge differently based on user, content, website, platform, application, type of equipment, source address, destination address, or method of communication.[4][5]

With net neutrality, ISPs may not intentionally block, slow down, or charge money for specific online content. Without net neutrality, ISPs may prioritize certain types of traffic, meter others, or potentially block traffic from specific services, while charging consumers for various tiers of service.

The term was coined by Columbia University media law professor Tim Wu in 2003, as an extension of the longstanding concept of a common carrier, which was used to describe the role of telephone systems.[6][7][8][9] Net neutrality regulations may be referred to as "common carrier" regulations.[10] Net neutrality does not block all abilities that Internet service providers have to impact their customers' services. Opt-in/opt-out services exist on the end user side, and filtering can be done on a local basis, as in the filtration of sensitive material for minors.[11]"

Which has a focus on commerce, and that's where the debate that i've been watching in governments has been heading.

Hence me asking you for a source, not 'to be my legal clerk', but to establish the grounds of the fucking debate, you feckless cunt

[–]AcceleratedWallops 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Wow calm the fuck down. But also:

"...not discriminate or charge differently based on user, content, website, platform, application, type of equipment, source address, destination address, or method of communication."

Isn't this exactly what were talking about? An ISP blocking traffic (here, texts) based on content.

Also, AFAIK it's not up to the ISP to deal with child pornography, and I think they may even be protected from it as "common carriers."

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

nice mental gymnastics

[–]AcceleratedWallops 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Lol ok.

QED then.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The ISP openly sells your data too.