George Floyd Body cam Video Shows he was saying "I can't Breath" way before being put on the Ground.

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[–]slushpilot 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

holding someone who can't breathe in a chokehold for over 8 minutes

Except that's not at all what the video shows.

We could argue about things like how much weight and where that knee was pressing, but calling that a "chokehold" is disingenuous. We should be clear because there's some discussion of banning chokeholds by police, which I would probably agree with, but that shouldn't mean that you can't hold anyone down on the ground, ever.

Also, he said he can't breathe and then he said he wants to lie on the ground. It's probably debatable, but I personally doubt it was the police that prevented him from breathing.

[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They should have had called for medical assistance first, then arrested him after someone checks his vitals and mental state. Dragging a person around who is clearly disturbed by something is inhumane to say the least. Wat do they do to the mentally ill homeless people I wonder.

[–]slushpilot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's armchair speculation at this point to argue about what they "should" have done.

They had a guy who was in no condition to be driving, sitting behind the wheel of a car. You can't just let him drive off like that: your only option is to arrest him as the first course of action. Not a lot of good choices available.

[–]Overdrive 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Generally they are trained to call for medical aid under the right circumstances. If George had stopped and said, "I need an ambulance" I am sure after a few more questions one would have been called.

Obviously they are trained to trust their senses. Blood, cuts, weakness, dizzyness, profuse sweating, slurred words, and even more obvious signs of course. George, to me, was not acting in a manner that bespoke a need for immediate medical attention.