More masks don't work by jamesK_3rd in Coronavirus

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In the control arm, 170/458 (37%) used medical masks, 38/458 (8%) used cloth masks, and 245/458 (53%) used a combination of both medical and cloth masks during the study period.

These are pretty small numbers for a randomized trial: only 38 participants using cloth masks.

Imagine being so deep in a cult that you believe that the Latin word for "two times" doesn't mean two. All while ignoring evidence. by LasagnaRossa in LGBDropTheT

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Bipedal is a spectrum. Amputees are valid.

Survey Finds Nearly 20% of Millennials and Gen Z in NY Believe Jews Caused the Holocaust by scrubking in WorldNews

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Yes, the first point is speculation & analogy—it might well be reductio ad absurdum... I really hope we don't get to a point where we start demonizing & dehumanizing each other on that level, but we are on that path, unfortunately.

puppets under secret societies

I might have to ask you for citations there myself. Unless what you're talking about is the Spartacus League, which kind of proves my point. Some of them were Jewish, but that doesn't necessarily mean it was a jewish movement—it was a Marxist one—but that made for good propaganda.

Do male seahorses, and their male relatives, really get "pregnant" and "give birth"? by EverydayIsSad in GenderCritical

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It didn't affect your greater point, so it didn't seem major. :)

Scientists: Sex Chromosomes are a "belief system" by GuacLettuceBacon in GenderCritical

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My only point about Semenya was that this is a pretty unique example of someone who was raised as a girl, but was only found to be male as an adult. It's a messy situation, and we need to allow for it & have some sympathy. It's so rare that such a person is not going to turn society upside down or be a threat to women—unlike opening the gates to self-id. I believe such a person should be allowed to live the life they've always known—although the new information is very relevant to issues like international sport where sex, not gender, still apply. It has to be evaluated on a case by case basis, and never over-generalized.

Survey Finds Nearly 20% of Millennials and Gen Z in NY Believe Jews Caused the Holocaust by scrubking in WorldNews

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There is a lot there, I admit. What is the specific claim you want to see verified?

Do male seahorses, and their male relatives, really get "pregnant" and "give birth"? by EverydayIsSad in GenderCritical

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Slight correction: bee colonies are >95% female worker bees. Where the queen lays fertilized eggs, only females emerge: usually worker bees, or else a new queen when the hive grows beyond its capacity and is about to swarm (split off and establish a new colony). Where the queen lays haploid (unfertilized) eggs, drone bees emerge. The queen can choose, depending on the size of the cell the workers prepared for her! Drone bees are the males, and their only purpose is to mate with a virgin queen from another colony. Therefore, the hive doesn't spend much of its resources raising very many of them. Before winter, the drones get dragged out of the hive and die. Hence in winter, bee colonies are 100% female.

Scientists: Sex Chromosomes are a "belief system" by GuacLettuceBacon in GenderCritical

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We're really just making this harder than it needs to be, aren't we? We know what biology is for men and women in 99.99% of cases, so we could just keep doing that, maybe?

I'd be totally fine with special consideration to those with a verified genetic or developmental condition—sure, let them legally identify themselves. There may be situations where that gets challenged, like Caster Semenya, but hey, the world is messy and we can deal with it as it comes up.

There's no sense arguing about such a tiny proportion of people. Whatever the conclusion of this scientific article is—it's just derailing the topic and is completely irrelevant to the "trans rights" issue that everyone is actually talking about for the vast majority of those who want to self-identify.

I see it like,

"I believe men shouldn't be admitted into women's prisons & shelters & sports."

— "But the scientific truth says! XXY! klinefelter! bimodal! seahorses!" —

"Sir, this is a Wendy's."

RGB has died by ekb88 in GenderCritical

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George RR Martin hasn't written it yet.

(Sorry. Got to find my humour where I can.)

I need some help by FearfulFriend in GenderCritical

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Right—that was part of my whole point too: she probably wasn’t a perfect representation of femininity to start with. Nobody is.

what are your thoughts on the t? by qwerty- in LGBDropTheT

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There is no "T as a whole" just as there is no "women as a whole" or any other identity. I prefer to engage with: 1. ideas 2. individuals.

I'd rather you ask what I think about some issue, like boys in girls sports, or propagandizing to children. Or about the opinion of what someone said. We can generalize about some things, but not about a whole category of people, especially one as weird and unclassifiable as "the T". I mean, they even disagree about the meaning of words among themselves...

How do I learn to love trans people and the trans movement by fuckupaddams in LGBDropTheT

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I know it implies that you disagree, but you have a right to your private thoughts. It must be okay to "live and let live". It's the bare minimum for a functioning society.

Scientists: Sex Chromosomes are a "belief system" by GuacLettuceBacon in GenderCritical

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What do you expect from an author whose first name is spelled with parentheses.

Survey Finds Nearly 20% of Millennials and Gen Z in NY Believe Jews Caused the Holocaust by scrubking in WorldNews

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I wouldn't go so far as to land "responsibility" on the head of the Jews, but there is truth to it.

Consider what's happening today with the riots & demands to abolish police, and stirring up oppressor/oppressed marxist narratives like taking down "whiteness" (whatever that is)... then throw in some anarchist agitators and we're now at the point where the public sees "BLM = Antifa", effectively.

Fast-forward a few years from today, an election happens, more riots, spin the news cycle a bit, and from the above we can easily arrive at "Blacks = Communist", de-facto, full-stop. They say they are living in a racist country that they hate and want to see undone, and that is un-American, so somebody suggests we move them out.

This kind of unrest was also happening in post-WWI Germany, throw in a flu pandemic and a stock market crash if you want as well. Remember, there were communist movements in Germany trying to copycat the revolution from Russia. Some of the agitators were Jews. Probably not a plurality though, but that's how these things go... A nasty narrative got started, and once everyone started saying it's the "jews/communists", you know what happened next.

The lead-up is everyone's fault. Mob mentality. Don't get sucked into taking sides.

How do I learn to love trans people and the trans movement by fuckupaddams in LGBDropTheT

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You're not going to convince them; they're not going to convince you.

It's perfectly good to just say "I have my own thoughts on this, and I'd rather not argue about it with my best friends". If they can't tolerate that, it really shows who is being the intolerant one.

Facebook axes political ad saying trans athletes will ‘destroy girls sports’ by missdaisycan in GenderCritical

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Did they provide the "missing context" for us?

Teen book, Felix Ever After by Kacen Callender, features 17 year old with mastectomy scars on the cover by worried19 in GenderCritical

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It's total fiction. All of it.

Read the book description, and realize this is being promoted as an aspirational character story for teens. "Falling in love for the first time", etc. I'm not expecting a very deep character here. It's all made up crap! (And why would someone think it's acceptable to transition before falling in love for the first time!?)

This is infuriating.

I need some help by FearfulFriend in GenderCritical

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Tell her how you're scared it will affect your friendship.

How you won't be able to open up to her about the things you always have, because it's hard to trust men with some of those intimate conversations that they'll never understand. And if she's going to be a man now...

Or how she'll just want to spend her time watching the football game and hanging out in the garage drinking beer with the guys instead of scrapbooking over a shared bottle of wine like you always have. She can't do those things if she's going to be a man now...

Or how she'll make fun of the "trashy" novel that you're reading or the "chick" movie you watched. Since she's going to be a man now...

Or, if that all sounds ridiculous and she's not actually going to start being a stereotype—then ask her—what's changing!? Certainly not her biology. Her clothes, then? Her hair and fingernails? She was always free to change those. But if that's all that remains then that's a stupid reason to start calling herself a man!

But seriously now, I wish you luck with this situation. It sounds tricky, but maybe there's hope you can get through to her and help her talk through this as a friend, one to one. However, there might be more to this if you're able to dig deeper with her: it's not at all typical for someone of her age to just decide something like this—she's not some impressionable kid! I would suspect there's some trauma or other reasons—does she really want to be seen as a man, or rather, to not be seen as a woman?

More using intersex as an excuse: "Many transgender people have penises or vulvas that look exactly like genitals you are attracted to" by Constantine in LGBDropTheT

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Thank you for your service.

Genderspecial Parents: "My kid is trans not gay." I am so confused. by our_team_is_winning in LGBDropTheT

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Their child is definitely not the ones calling the shots here, just along for the ride

It's probably negotiated by the child, but technically true, because enabling it is just poor parenting. "I'm a firetruck!" Of course you are dear, let's go buy you a ladder...

Cuties actresses: too young? by slushpilot in GenderCritical

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I couldn't figure out what on the producer's Twitter feed was giving you second thoughts

There's what looks like current photos of the cast which made me realize they're no longer 11. So if it was shot 2-3 years ago, that about lines up with what they look like today (13 or 14).

Not really second thoughts, though. Fact is, they were 11 when it was made and I'm not defending that. It just made me wonder if the general reaction would still be the same if they looked like the pubescent teenagers they are now—and if not, why not.

This child and the other children in this movie were not "participating in a conversation."

Agreed. They were 11 and not really equipped to understand what their role meant: and that in itself is exploitative.

made the film for the purpose of advancing the adults' careers and making the adults money

The film does seem to have been made with some purpose beyond profit—we're all talking about how outrageous it is, aren't we... it could've just as easily been deleted from existence (and it still might).

For good or bad I'm assuming the lead stars established their own careers and made money from their roles too. They and their families might not understand how it was wrong (yet) but then I hope they use the money to go to school at least. Nobody's making as much as Netflix off the back of the controversy, of course. That's a separate discussion though, separate from how the film was made. Maybe the dirty money should at least go to a good cause.

it sounds like you are saying that [...] laws and standards meant to safeguard children's wellbeing should be lowered further

Absolutely not.

But it doesn't seem like any laws were broken or it wouldn't've been distributed: hence the question, does this mean we are collectively OK with this kind of acting at 11? Apparently not, and I at least find that heartening.

BLM & Antifa Have the Same Problems as the Cops They Hate by slushpilot in politics

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I think the George Floyd case is totally besides the point of what he's saying—but nobody's making you watch it.

What I find more interesting is his criticism of the protesters "gang-like" behaviour—like closing ranks, refusing to take responsibility, not calling out their "bad apples", and using personal safety as an excuse for violence.

He's not necessarily saying that's how the cops behave (or if they do, then it's secondary to the main point), but the protesters are doing precisely the worst of the things they are accusing against the police.

New study confirms: Gender Diverse show much higher rates of autism by BEB in GenderCritical

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Using the term 'cure' could set up an unrealistic expectation

Just like using the term 'transition' and recommending that in the absence of a cure...

New study confirms: Gender Diverse show much higher rates of autism by BEB in GenderCritical

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and their therapist says, ‘Well, we need to first cure your autism before we transition

The author might be trying to be facetious or hyperbolic in this quote. I think they know that autism can't be "cured"—only managed and understood. But implying that therapists shouldn't first do some gatekeeping before transition is incredibly wrong.

I think it could be argued that the gender confusion is an expression of the autism, or even that these mental inabilities to individuate oneself and others are actually two faces of the same thing. I just don't get how a therapist could treat one and dismiss the other... to then say, well, at least there's transition for the other thing—wow.

New study confirms: Gender Diverse show much higher rates of autism by BEB in GenderCritical

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To give the authors the benefit of the doubt though, they are being good scientists and only presenting the numeric facts in this paper without jumping ahead. Hopefully this provides a platform for more papers to cite this, analyze the findings, and draw the obvious (to us) conclusions & recommendations...

The ever-elusive "feeling like a woman" - what the hell is it supposed to be? Rant incoming... by vitunrotta in GenderCritical

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Absolutely! But parents have a tendency to trust schools and not interfere with teachers, so they allow it to be taught. These things don't necessarily come from school though—it could be tumblr... It's really the parents' job to teach common sense.

The ever-elusive "feeling like a woman" - what the hell is it supposed to be? Rant incoming... by vitunrotta in GenderCritical

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Funny how it's always dressed up as wholesome fun too. Pioneers were just like the scouts... with marching and songs and stuff! (Yeah, and so were the German youth... and today it's rainbows.)

New Tulsa Police Video Shows White Driver Resist Cops, Shoot Them Both, Kill 1 And Live To Tell About It. by SHUTUP100 in news

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Media spin: racist cops too reluctant to draw guns on their white murderer during traffic stop.

The ever-elusive "feeling like a woman" - what the hell is it supposed to be? Rant incoming... by vitunrotta in GenderCritical

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I absolutely believe these tyrant activists & systemic "sympathetic" rot are the most dangerous thing happening to us right now. For me it's more a question of how did we get here... I guess I'm hoping that if we can explain the (wrongheaded or evil) motives at every step, then this could help unwind it.

New study confirms: Gender Diverse show much higher rates of autism by BEB in GenderCritical

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Simply calling it "overlap" dismisses all notions of causality and vulnerability.

I think we're beyond wondering whether and why there is an "overlap". The correlation is actually causal, and I think they're being too shy to say so in the title.

Violent memes and messages surging on far-left social media, a new report finds by jet199 in politics

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Since they can get everyone thinking & saying the same things—I have to say yes they can.

The Transition "Integrity" Project Is Working to Remove President Trump from Office No Matter What - Has Connections to China, Soros, Obama and Hunter Biden by scrubking in politics

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He could easily head them off by making a statement that he wants to reassure everyone that he will abide by the results on the night of the election, no matter who wins.

Both sides need to walk this back, whether it's the "do not concede" or the "they want a revolution" side. It's fucking dangerous beyond imagination. No matter if the election is proven fair and accurate, there is almost too much distrust for it to matter.

The ever-elusive "feeling like a woman" - what the hell is it supposed to be? Rant incoming... by vitunrotta in GenderCritical

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they do not want to lose control over women

This spun off into a bunch of different thoughts for me.

Want has to start from some personal motive. That need for power & control is an obvious fact of individual men, but I can't follow the reasoning of how such individuals could decide that the way to regain control over patriarchal values & the entire class of women is to become one.

Such thinking would have to be coordinated with a stated goal, and I don't think it is. Church conservatives can come right out and say women belong in the kitchen etc to rally their movement, but for this subject, it seems too roundabout.

Of course, these individuals can manipulate control over their wives, who now have to contend with them and coddle them and call them "she"... I could see that for sure, but to extend that to a plan that affects culture so broadly in the way it has been?

(A lot of these men—both HSTS and AGP—also seem to have a submission fetish, so I suspect it's a very specific kind of "control" we're talking about here.)

So when you say "they", do you mean individual men, or are you proposing some collective thought? I'm just trying to follow the thread of where the intent (malice) springs from, or if it's actually an unintentional byproduct (systemic result) ...since then it's not a want.

For what it's worth I think their individual reasoning is more likely something along the lines of:

  1. Lust, focusing all their attention on women, women's bodies, feminine clothing, mannerisms etc.
  2. Projection, "women get all the attention"
  3. Self-pity, "nobody pays attention to me"
  4. Self-hate, "I feel so degraded and desperate"
  5. Misattribution & more projection, "this must be what feeling like a woman is like"
  6. Down the rabbit hole

And yes, decadent countries where we have unlimited access to internet porn instead of being forced to live in the real world and build real relationships & meet real people means that indulging this kind of thinking is much more likely.

(In any case, I don't think we can actually rationalize intention from mental illness though.)

Would you guys vote for... Trump? by joy1090 in LGBDropTheT

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I seem to recall their original projection was 150k for the first "flatten the curve" wave.

I am not afraid: My reflections on being a gender critical lesbian entrenched in the “queer” (LGB) community. by Skipdip in GenderCritical

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I picked up on it. I like it.

Needs an extra pinch of cognitive dissonance though.

How a false narrative gets created and spread by jet199 in politics

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This is all quite recent, but it's officially set in stone now:

NPC's who repeat narratives. Is this brainwashing or true low IQ stupidity? by PencilPusher55 in AskSaidIt

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There's a lot of smart people who believe stupid things. I think part of it is just how humans cooperate as social animals. We have a tendency to go along with our community or tribe, and defend it against outside threats. Contradictory ideas can be threatening, so even if it means burying your head in the sand, you have to do it if you don't want to risk losing face with everyone you know.

When this instinct for getting along goes off the rails, it leads to mass delusions of the kind most often seen in cults. We are all susceptible to it—especially when we're at our most insecure, fearful, or paranoid.

Is this real? Alleged drone arson footage from Liveleak. by nothingtosee in conspiracy

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That Liveleak user's page says "All videos I post are from popular Chinese websites"

This one on Twitter is higher quality and doesn't have the overlay text: there has to be another original source somewhere.

Is this real? Alleged drone arson footage from Liveleak. by nothingtosee in conspiracy

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That looks and sounds more like a helicopter than a drone. I really hope it's not what it looks like... but I don't know how else to explain it.

EDIT: it's a back-burn set on the uphill side of the road for fire control: https://gizmodo.com/this-flamethrowing-helicopter-is-helping-fight-californ-1722400678

Spokane Girl Arrested for Arson Posted Picture on Facebook "Feeling Cute, Might Burn All Your S**t Later" by scrubking in WorldNews

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That photo post is dated from 2019 so we can't say if it's motivated, but still. Someone has serious problems.

Reddit is peaking by Sunflowerdevyl in GenderCritical

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The apocalyptic smoke in the background of that news photo really adds to the imagery. State of the world, right there.

World Rugby criticised by dozens of academics for trans women ban by notgonnabenice in GenderCritical

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“recent research by the American Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found 3.4% of American school students (year 9-12) identify as trans or gender diverse, or they were ‘not sure’ about their gender identity”.

How can someone cite this with a straight face, and not recognize the number of fads that have rolled through teenage populations over the decades.

I've Given Birth, But I Am Not My Children's Mother. Where Do I Belong? | The Motherload® by Susiesmum in GenderCritical

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Trans-women are women, But non-binary mothers aren’t mothers.

Got it.

Can we talk about Netflix "Cuties"? Men--dads--tell me it's no big deal by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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I haven't watched it. I don't know if I will, but I still have some thoughts on what I know about it.

Many young girls learn to dance and perform gymnastics routines in outfits identical to the ones in this movie. Some of them also learn to do similar moves that they pick up from music videos and emulate on their own. Yes, kids really do enjoy performing & thrive on being praised! And yes, there is a very real danger of exploitation in that.

All the filmmaker did was show some things that are, unfortunately, pretty normal in our culture—pushed too far for shock effect on screen, but sadly not terribly surprising to me. And, because I assumed so many people are already desensitized to this, I was actually really glad to see the outrage & discussion about this film. I just wish the anger was focused more on what the movie reveals to us, instead of the fact that the filmmaker and Netflix dared to show it.

It's not only the director that you have to question about whether it was right to have kids perform in this film. There was surely a choreographer, along with other crew, and the girls themselves look like experienced dancers who have been training for some time with the support of their family.

Although it was over the top, let's not pretend that the director had these girls perform in some way that doesn't exist in mainstream acceptable society, with proud supportive mothers cheering them on. This could've readily been another documentary or a trashy reality show like so many others about cheerleaders or child beauty pageants, but would've lacked the same impact. Showing these girls twerking, but then simultaneously seeing them for who they really are—devouring gummy bears & just being innocent kids—is what I think makes this so deeply uncomfortable & impactful.

Is it any different when it's a children's dance troupe performing like this on a local arts theater stage for family entertainment? Or is it only exploitative when it's exposed to a wider audience on Netflix? This kind of performance isn't some clandestine pedophilia lurking in the shadows: you can find similar (but tamer) recordings from shaky camera phones shared with many "likes" on facebook.

I don't really want to defend the film, but I'm reluctant to condemn out of hand, too. Are people only upset because they were made to acknowledge how common this precocious sexualization really is? If so, then I'm at least happy for that.

Wanting to drop my best friend because she recently moved to fucking la la land. by fuckupaddams in GenderCritical

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Yes, I do get it. It's an impossible situation, so it's best to just stay out of it. It's not your responsibility to fix.

Ob/Gyn says: "You're assigned a sex at birth" by StirringCoffee in GenderCritical

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There needs to be a word for misusing rare DSDs (disorders of sexual development) and genetic abnormalities as a human shield against non-sequitur transgender arguments.

What percentage of transgender people are actually intersex? ...Right.

So shut up about "science" because these conditions are not remotely relevant to the people & issues we're actually talking about.

Anyone else reading "Irreversible Damage?" Here's a chilling excerpt... by vitunrotta in GenderCritical

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Yes. If you normalize something in a way that you can't criticize it anymore, then it's no longer a kink. But, there's always something else just beyond the re-established boundary to call "kinky" again... and so it advances. The slippery slope is real.

Wanting to drop my best friend because she recently moved to fucking la la land. by fuckupaddams in GenderCritical

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I'm genuinely concerned he's going to ...

If I take a huge step back and look at what you're saying like some kind of objective alien, it sounds like the person we should be most genuinely concerned about is this guy, and not the girlfriend or your friendship with her. She can keep her crazy beliefs and be OK (although still a little weird) but if she's applying these beliefs to encourage an emotionally vulnerable person in a direction that leads to his suicide, that's quite concerning.

It might not be popular for me to say this here, but He should be protected from Her, as the more vulnerable one in that messed up relationship.

I don't think it's really your place to intervene, but if this guy is being encouraged to transition for the wrong reasons (and it sure sounds like it) it would be helpful for him to just have someone to talk to who isn't neck-deep in the same shit. It's a huge risk for you to get tangled up in their mutual craziness & have it blow up in your face though.

You mentioned your boyfriend: maybe talk to him about this and see if he wants to reach out to this guy to just be a "bro" to talk to in confidence. I don't know how close you all are as friends, so that's probably easier said than done. Ultimately, I agree this guy needs a professional, not an enabler girlfriend.

Wanting to drop my best friend because she recently moved to fucking la la land. by fuckupaddams in GenderCritical

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That's codependency though. They are preying on each other and feeding on each other's unique insecurities.

Beginning to believe these anti-racist movements have made people more racist than ever. Normal people in my area have had enough. by PencilPusher55 in whatever

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I think you're right. Maybe anti-racism hasn't made people more racist, but certainly more distrustful of each other.

If I have to worry that someone is going to report me for a "microaggression" or have me fired because of something I "liked" online, then I'm going to try and stay away from people who might do that (regardless of their race) and keep my mouth shut about my true feelings.

Wanting to drop my best friend because she recently moved to fucking la la land. by fuckupaddams in GenderCritical

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Now, are you looking to cut ties and walk away quietly, hoping she might later come to her senses and reconnect?

Or are you thinking you'll be the only person who will her the truth—the truth you've written here?

Creepy man pro-Cuties reviewer really likes the movie. "This movie tries to sexualize 11 year olds. It's not bad at it." by Chipit in Movies

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You should watch the original, not this cut-up review of a review.

He does say some pretty horrible things in it—because he recognizes the whole thing is pretty horrible. But it's a review worth listening to in full context.

Netflix movie 'Cuties' could be investigated for violations of child exploitation laws by sproketboy in news

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It's not clear that it is child exploitation—but it does come close to the line.

I suspect that none of the images in the movie are actually illegal, or else it wouldn't be on Netflix. And yet, something about it makes us all uncomfortable and outraged, unlike "Honey Boo Boo" which is about organized beauty pageants.

This movie shows kids being kids. And we don't like what we see the kids doing. Doesn't that reflect on the adults and the culture we've created for them?

Netflix movie 'Cuties' could be investigated for violations of child exploitation laws by sproketboy in news

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I said "if" it is exploitation, which is what makes this complicated. The story is about young girls filming themselves doing "sexy" dances. It sounds messed up and uncomfortable, for obvious reasons.

But guess what—kids start doing those things at that age. If we can't hold a mirror up to them and examine why our culture motivates little girls to do that, we're just lying to ourselves.

My point is that this film is NOT as simple as "look at these little girls being sexy". You should feel uncomfortable watching it.

Have you watched Beasts of no Nation about child soldiers? That is a painful film to watch. This actually sounds like something similar.

Intrusion - First Time Mom, there's an initialization for that term. TW, pregnant lady rant ahead by trumpetvine in GenderCritical

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Well, for my part, I can't wait to say "congratulations, when are you due!" the next time I see "ftm".

Baby Donald disclosed secret US weapons system to journalist during late night chats. I sleep well, don't you? by DIMP in politics

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Devil's advocate: The only way a "secret" nuclear weapons system is useful, is if everyone knows it exists. These things are meant to hopefully never be used. It's called deterrence.

It could be that the military actually wants to create some speculation through a leak like this. Or, maybe he's just a blabbermouth.

Netflix movie 'Cuties' could be investigated for violations of child exploitation laws by sproketboy in news

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I posted "an uncomfortably honest review" of this movie from Youtube—you can find it elsewhere here.

It sounds like this movie isn't really everything that it seems. I don't know, I haven't seen it yet, but it sounds like it's designed to make you uncomfortable with the subject. If it is exploitation, maybe it's for the "right" reason—if there is such a thing.

Portland protest marches by an older couple's house every day. One day, their fence was tagged. The cleanup crew came the very next day, cleaned the graffiti, and left this card. by EndlessSunflowers in whatever

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I was told Antifa doesn't exist.

If it does, then does that make up for this?

(Do I need to continue?)

The State Media - Gender Ideology - Full Version by notgonnabenice in GenderCritical

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The full version is down, but the individual parts are still available on their channel:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkvq4A8DyDt3YzMTdlZfwjDNH3-iEV8hW

The State Media - Gender Ideology - Full Version by notgonnabenice in GenderCritical

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Although it's been taken down, many of the sources and references are listed on their website:

https://www.thestatemedia.com/2020/09/10/gender-ideology-sources-and-credits/

The State Media - Gender Ideology - Full Version by notgonnabenice in GenderCritical

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Me too, half way through and it's been pulled.

Cuties: An Uncomfortably Honest Review by slushpilot in GenderCritical

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Pretty much exactly what this reviewer says, plus expressing how uncomfortable it made him to watch this as a guy. I haven't watched the film yet, but based on this I just might. The glamorous poster image does this film disservice—I thought it was some reality show trash when I first heard of it.

Anyone want to weigh in on a conversation I am having? by Skipdip in GenderCritical

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Your friend originally wrote "Here are my thoughts, in no particular order", and I think it would be helpful to help her refocus by extracting one or more concrete position statements or synthesizing one common theme to put some "handles" on this slippery discussion, and maybe discuss them one at a time. Start by putting names to what you disagree with. Is it any of:

  • "biological sex is binary, not bimodal"
  • "race and gender relations are not analogues"
  • "sex is the single most determinant category for athletic performance"
  • etc.

Ultimately your friend seems to be summing up her disagreement with a very general, unspecified thought:

I strongly disagree with what I think you’re suggesting about sex- and gender-based policies. I say this on the basis that rejecting trans-women and men works to support patriarchal structures that are universally harmful [...]

However, I assume what you're suggesting is not "rejecting trans-women and men" based on patriarchal structures, or even rejecting them at all, but having policies based on what they physically are instead of what they feel or wish to be. It might help to try and specify for her what you actually think these policies are, and what determinant of fairness they should be based on.

I just wanted to add, the idea of a dichotomous "blackness"/"whiteness" is ironically much more of a spectrum than the arguably binary gender/sex argument. (Or bimodal or whatever: such splitting of hairs really does not matter to the greater point.)

People can much more obviously be 1/2, 1/4, 1/16 or some other mix of African+European ancestry (with honourable mention for the other continents) ultimately making race meaningless. The same will never be true of physical sex.

Anyone want to weigh in on a conversation I am having? by Skipdip in GenderCritical

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Your friend has taken great effort to erect a very carefully balanced tower of ideas in order to be able to see things this way, which allows her to align everything along the particular axis of sex or race that suits her worldview best.

A tall woman is not "more male" — that's a completely different axis.

3 very succinct reasons trans-women are men & not women by SnowAssMan in GenderCriticalGuys

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People who challenge the second bullet point can't do so without arguing that trans-women (& everyone with a "gender identity") have an immunity against socialisation.

I'm not sure I understand this point: could you expand on your explanation?

I'm really frustrated... by BEB in GenderCritical

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I like this. If I can make a suggestion that I hope will make this "TELL A FRIEND" movement more effective:

Spamming everyone with a single public post on social media or writing an open letter is easy, but that's a one-time deal, and will not be considered deeply or acted upon even if the individuals who see it might privately agree.

Instead, choose one friend each day and start a polite, private conversation. This means they will be forced to engage with you 1:1, person to person, and not be forced to act out some contrived public show of solidarity. These people will find your points reasonable, but it will take time for them to find each other and slowly realize that they are not alone. That feeling of not being alone, of not being the crazy one, is what's needed for everyone to find they do have their own voice and speak up.

Caster Semenya losses appeal against the restriction of testosterone levels in female runners by greenish in GenderCritical

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He could have stepped down graciously and applauded the women from the sidelines, or else competed with the men. Instead the issue had to be drawn out like this.

Caster Semenya is not the first intersex Olympic athlete, and likely not the last. The first, Erik Schinegger, did the right thing and is respected for it. Semenya's legacy will remain muddy and controversial at best.

Reddit admits that their latest subreddit purge was a failure; only 18% decrease in "toxic comments" by ISaidWhatISaid in censorship

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Please change all references of "blacklist" to "deny list" or else you're a racist.

Reddit admits that their latest subreddit purge was a failure; only 18% decrease in "toxic comments" by ISaidWhatISaid in censorship

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"Liberal" to me still means "live and let live". This is something different.

Conservatives used to be the ones operating through collective dogma with the church. Now it seems they've changed sides on that.

Reddit admits that their latest subreddit purge was a failure; only 18% decrease in "toxic comments" by ISaidWhatISaid in censorship

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Or if opposition to Donald Trump on a forum dedicated to his supporters is censored, I can at least understand

Agreed. I have no problem with one-sided communities where we know the default position is biased. There you can see the range of opinions on that side, in their natural habitat. They're useful as a point of reference for debate at least.

Debate should of course be welcome, perhaps in a separate forum that doesn't derail the original community because of numbers. That's what r/GenderCritical and r/GCdebatesQT did (both are now on saidit for supposed "hate" since the purge). I would have hoped that debate spaces like that where contentious opposition is expected to happen should at least remain, even if it is an ideology you disagree with like r/debateAltRight.

''Women's genitals come in all shapes, sizes and colours'' by Cannotgoogleme in GenderCritical

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Oh well that explains a lot. I didn't realize the target audience for this message was children. Wow.

That makes it worse, but I think parents will go along with it because it sounds like every other anti-bullying mantra, and suggests that it's to help young kids with personal insecurities (which they DO NOT have at that age: remember this is about genitals) — and not realize what this underhanded message actually implies.

''Women's genitals come in all shapes, sizes and colours'' by Cannotgoogleme in GenderCritical

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I wonder if this saying speaks to women's insecurities about their body, so while this message is a good response to beauty standards and most people would agree with acceptance of "all shapes, sizes and colours", it's also a trojan horse for people who literally mean all shapes, including male genitals.

Reddit isn't happy about President Trump's "anti-censorship" executive order by scrubking in politics

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Exactly. Their response is a straw man.

[REUPLOAD] Polish children on twitter jump on a hate bandwagon and call JK Rowling transphobic. by Cannotgoogleme in therearetwogenders

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These are all silly kids who are just copying these ideas from foreign media. With growing numbers, it becomes easier to convince others who don't understand any of it at first, but then manage convince themselves because they see everyone else saying it.

Yes, stupid.

Riddle me this - where are all the women in their 40's and 50's who suddenly become trans? by Cacator in GenderCritical

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Excellent comment. I was specifically addressing the point of young girls, but you're right that there's a trove of reasons that need to be unpacked and understood. This means we need to be able to question and discuss these issues openly without dismissing it as "transphobia".

Riddle me this - where are all the women in their 40's and 50's who suddenly become trans? by Cacator in GenderCritical

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This is the question you ask when someone claims the sudden surge in trans people is because they suddenly feel safe and welcome to come out.

It's not evenly distributed by a long shot. It's specific demographic groups, which proves it's a social contagion.

Reddit says Trump’s social media order could destroy the site: Reddit is urging the Federal Communications Commission to reject a petition for rulemaking to amend Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, saying that if the section changes it “would change the very trajectory of the internet.” by AbominableAnon in Internet

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Reddit argued that because moderaters of the subreddits remove content within them based on the rules of each community, changes to Section 230 would “undermine” that system

Funny. They fail to mention how admins unilaterally remove communities. This is not about in-community moderation.

I Stand With Sophie by gayposeidon in GenderCritical

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I agree with you, but this assumes that the establishment media could be trusted to stick their neck out and report on these issues reponsibly by safeguarding the girl's identity and hold the courts to account. Unfortunately these judges use publication bans and legal force to save themselves embarrassment over bad rulings, and the lazy media complies.

If it's not actually the judge but the law itself that's failing this girl, then that needs to be publicly debated and changed for the good of all abused children. I'd rather not know who the girl is, but she potentially represents the case of so many. If it's this egregious in her case, how many more are too easily ignored?

You might have heard of the case in BC, Canada where a father was prevented from dissuading his 14-year old daughter from taking testosterone before she's an adult. The judge issued a publication ban so none of the specifics of the case could be discussed, and the father was forbidden to speak to the media about the court's decision to side with the daughter's wishes. Nobody was aware that this could happen to their own children, so it was an important case to discuss openly. The only way he got some of his parental rights back was by breaking the law and speaking about it.

Hey! I don't know If you would be interested, but... by PM_Me_Your_Tits_Ladi in GenderCritical

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I predict this will get shut down as a ban evasion. Reddit looks at patterns of which users cluster together and will likely decide that you shouldn't have the freedom to associate there. That place is dead to me.

I have to say, it's a strange name for a subreddit. How about women who don't care about "cis" notions of gender? Anyway, good luck.

Americans: If you have been affected by the Reddit banning wave, the FCC would like to hear from you by SanityIsGC in GenderCritical

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This is about Section 230.

I've also heard the terms "platform" (neutral) vs. "publisher" (curated/edited) used more commonly. I'm curious, where does your use of platform to mean "Wall Street Journal" come from?

Redditor has a bad time at a gay orgy. The level of entitlement is astounding. This is what happens when you have little to no real world experience and fall for what the internet tells you. by Chipit in MeanwhileOnReddit

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I personally don't feel great about excluding actual honest debate from the main GC sub, but it was absolutely a problem on Reddit when uninformed newcomers would post the same tired arguments & talking points, and derail the sub to focus on "whataboutism", men's problems or trans problems, etc.

I don't think it's a question of being above criticism, but it is a question of numbers. When you're in the minority, you have to put up some walls.

Lisa Littman + colleagues leaving their respective university to create a non-profit gender dysphoria research group by notgonnabenice in GenderCritical

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Does having a university name behind your work matter for credibility?

I'm concerned that striking out like this means their work will be more easily dismissed as being a "right-wing think tank" or something.

Redditor has a bad time at a gay orgy. The level of entitlement is astounding. This is what happens when you have little to no real world experience and fall for what the internet tells you. by Chipit in MeanwhileOnReddit

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"cis" means normal. If it's followed by -man or -woman, you can just ignore it in the sentence and it will make more sense.

Why do they try to take over absolutely everything? by TruBi in LGBDropTheT

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Anyways, what's the deal with all the weird flags all of a sudden? It's like they're really grasping for something concrete to hold on to because the rest of their ideology is just made-up nonsense.

Considering ongoing domestic and international sociopolitical tensions; what is the experience of war like for women? by JoeDzhugashvili in GenderCritical

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My grandmother who grew up in a small village told us "at least the germans were polite and enforced order"—implying that the Soviets were none of that. I don't know all of what she experienced as a young girl, but she said those Russian barbarians took everything from them. So, for someone to be sympathetic and wistful toward the Nazis, that should tell you something.

Study on The Psychology of Gender Critical Feminism by GenderCriticalStudy in GenderCritical

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I strongly suspect this survey was designed to be completed only by religious conservative types, and abandoned as incomplete by reasonable people who find the questions to be nonsensical or offensive.

Hence the survey creates the conclusion that it seeks: "100% of GC feminists are racists & right-wing bigots". Also, very few of the questions had to do with "psychology".

I smell a troll.

Study on The Psychology of Gender Critical Feminism by GenderCriticalStudy in GenderCritical

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Many of the questions present false dichotomies and kafka-traps that can't be honestly answered. I got about halfway through it and gave up. For example:

"God created two sexes only"

Yes there are two sexes, but I don't know why religion is supposed to have anything to do with it. I "strongly agree" with biological fact, but also "strongly disagree" that this is some kind of belief. Conflating the two things is a non-sequitur. So what do you expect someone is supposed to answer there?

The current Kenosha Sheriff from 2 years ago ranting on warehousing blacks after a shoplifting incident that resulted in a car chase and minor car accident. He still has his job. by igorness in politics

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Guy sounds like he's on a power trip and probably shouldn't be policing, but to be fair he never says "blacks".

He specifically says "I don't care what race; if there's a line that you cross".

Countries where being trans/transitioning is criminalised? by ThiccDropkick in LGBDropTheT

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This could also be because transition is so rare as to not realistically exist in most countries. So why even have a law for it.

Posie Parker's "I lost my daughter to this cult" video has been removed from YouTube for "hate speech" by AccioWomensRights in GenderCritical

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I don't know why but I always read this as Bitch'Ute...

Twitter Deplatforms Website That Released Audio of Joe Biden and Ukrainian President Discussing FIRING VIKTOR SHOKIN Who Was Investigating Hunter Biden by scrubking in politics

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That this audio exists doesn't surprise me. Go watch the videos from a French investigative journalist on ukrainegate.info

They are long, but definitely worth your time.