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[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's mind boggling that people are so brainwashed to believe Palestine never existed. Meanwhile the borders match up near-perfectly with Israel.

Every other country has a border; except Palestine.

Also, what's up with Trans-Jordan?

Maybe Trans-Jordan had a few years to think it over, and decided to be regular ol' Jordan.

Maybe we should rename Palestine to "Trans-Israel".

[–]In-the-clouds 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Old Bibles have maps that show the same. It was called Palestine. And God loves all people, regardless of their nationality, but he does require all people to repent and turn to Jesus for salvation.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And God loves all people, regardless of their nationality

Depends which part of the bible you read.

Yahweh is referred to throughout as the God of Israel, and the the god of anywhere else. (Although scholars tend to think that he was originally an invader deity, and displaced Baal, who was a more original God of Israel.)

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Old bibles show that because they were printed when there was still a British Empire.

Palestine is just the name the British gave to the region.

[–]brimshae 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Palestine is just the name the British gave to the region.

... based on the name of the people that lived there. The Egyptians called it "Peleset" back in 12th Century BC. Assyrians called it "Pilistu" 400 years later. The Greeks wrote it as "Palaistine" one to four hundred years later. The term literally predates Christ.

Per a Britlitfag I know, what might be regarded as the foundation of England-England didn't come around until Alfred the Great in the late 800s AD.

[–]Oyveygoyim 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Israel didn't become a State until the 1960s. Over 2,000 years ago it was known as judea until the jews decided to attempt to overthrow the Roman empire. The jews failed and Roman emperor Hadrian sent 13 Roman legions and burned judea to the ground. It wasn't jew land again until after WW2 when white nations chose to side with the communists.

[–]Gravi 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

From what I know, before Israel was a state, it was a rather peaceful time really, Jews and Muslims living there just fine and dandy.

Maybe I don't know all of it, but it seems like the creation of Israel as a state made some serious complications and problems.

[–]jerryk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The conception of a Jewish homeland in Palestine never had majority Jewish support internationally until the Holocaust. Following the Holocaust, the international Jewish community didn't support the idea of a Jewish homeland, exactly, but desired a strong Jewish state with a powerful military to prevent the rise of another Hitler, and to make sure Jews would have a place to go to if another Hitler did arise to threaten Jews worldwide. This is why the two state solution has never really been practical, because it directly implied that the Jewish state was merely an autonomous region with no real political power, hence, of no particular interest to the international Jewish community.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So colonialism is good now?

[–]beazer12beard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

To be clear, this map also lists "Phoenicia" and "Canaan" on it.

Palestine was an ancient Roman province, and then absolutely nothing for the better part of two millennia. Until 1920 when the British and French divided up Ottoman Syria into four pieces to better subjugate the population, and inexplicably named Southwest Syria "Palestine" after ancient Roman history.

During the Ottoman period, Mamluk period, Abbasid period...this wasn't "Palestine." There was no border control and everyone spoke the same language.