Why your beliefs about the holocaust is a lose lose situation.

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[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So then why deport all jews to another country if some had nothing to do with the banker cartel?

Hundreds of thousands of Jews stayed behind because they considered themselves Germans. Despite what you've been propagandized to believe many of the camps were shelters from warzones and angry locals pissed generally at Jews for the crimes of their banking and political relatives. Just because some innocent jews existed doesn't erase the crimes of their leadership. Regardless Germany was attempting to return the populace to a more germanic stock you can't do that with too many non Germans floating around.

That's like deporting all mexicans for the drug cartels.

Drug cartels don't use their fellow ethnics quite the same way the Jews do. Big Jews exploit little Jews and I'm fine with deporting a large portion of Hispanics for that very reason. Hispanic cartel members can blend in with larger Hispanic populations and commit crimes. Reduce the Hispanic population and you make that issue smaller. Reduce the number of Gypsies in your country and reduce the base of operation for Gypsy criminals. This isn't rocket science.

Secondly, this implies that there's good jews which means that jews weren't lying about the holocaust cause

Weird logic. So if there's some good Jews out there it means Jews didn't come together to fabricate and market the holocaust? That's absurd. There's a lot of benefit for Jewish exploitative industries to dress themselves up as the victim. It deflects from their crimes. The burden of proof lies on the person asserting the claim and not only do Jewish historians fall flat we can read about the Jewish marketing teams getting together in the 70's to solidify the mythos of the holocaust in the public's mind. Read The Holocaust Industry by Finkelstein.

So why hate all jews and call them parasite and kikes for people that have nothing to do with the bad ones

Stop getting all your information about dissidents from the ADL, Sitcoms, and GoyimTV Fed streams. The dissident view on Jews is more nuanced and historically grounded than you perceive.

As for your last part,if he knewed about them being kicked out 109 times, he would know they'd come back again years after he died.

That's why it's called the JQ. It's the Jewish question. What should we do about the constant multi generational Jewish meddling, scheming and manipulations? The Russian Tsar had the same issue; he attempted to give them land and ployshares and instead they sold them to get right back into exploitative lending. In fact quite a few great men in history have recognized this issue.

https://ibb.co/4m827NS

There's no way it would work because jews love playing the waiting game.

He attempted to make the most logical and moral position he could. My gut tells me he hoped that if he built up his nation and his people strong enough that they would resist future Jewish incursions. Jews prey on your weaknesses. Get stronger both mentally and physically and the Jew is forced to find a weaker target. You get the Jews you deserve.

There's no way it would work because jews love playing the waiting game.

Germanic/Anglo people are faustian. They push out, explore, conceptualize, and constantly challenge boundaries. They are not a people content with slavery of any type. They will resist Jewish tyranny at all costs.

[–]jacques1102[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Weird logic. So if there's some good Jews out there it means Jews didn't come together to fabricate and market the holocaust? That's absurd. There's a lot of benefit for Jewish exploitative industries to dress themselves up as the victim. It deflects from their crimes. The burden of proof lies on the person asserting the claim and not only do Jewish historians fall flat we can read about the Jewish marketing teams getting together in the 70's to solidify the mythos of the holocaust in the pubic's mind. Read The Holocaust Industry by Finkelstein.

But there were 700,000 witnesses.Are you suggesting they all planned on lying about the holocaust?What about general eisenhower who ordered the army to document the evidence?In order to believe the holocaust was a hoax is to believe thousands of people were in on a conspiracy.

As for your last part,where's the evidence that hitler wanted to take the logical/moral position on jews?Even if he did, let me get this straight.Hitler was ok with killing fellow europeans over territory claims and a conspiracy that poland was killing germans in their country, but killing jews when they declared war on you, and have killed white christians in the russian revolution would be seen as immoral for hitler?Again, if he was smart he'd not declare war on europe, and delt with the jews in his country first then declare war.Unless you'll claim the jews controlled the allies and would declare war on germany for killing jews in their country(which would completely overplay their hand)then there's no reason to attack poland,and other countries.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But there were 700,000 witnesses

Have you watched any of the taped confessions of 'holocaust' survivors? Total bullshit. Constant lies and exaggerations. Additionally it's important to point out holocaust revisionism does not deny that Jews went to camps and in some cases were forced into camps. Holocaust revisionism does not deny that Hitler and his party wanted the bulk of Jews to leave Europe. Holocaust revisionism rejects the 6-11 million "Genocidal DEATH CAMP!" claims. This is clearly a marketing campaign to create a cover for modern Jewish schemes. Anytime people look into 'why' Hitler might not have liked the Jews their moral character is called into question and 'antisemitism' comes up. That is a tactic. That is a on purpose. That's all about social engineering and strategically amplifying victim-hood.

There's a reason Jews used the number '6 million' for decades before the holocaust. There's a reason Patton was murdered as he was sending letters to his wife about his goals post war. There's a reason major world figures, presidents, and generals post war never mentioned the 'holocaust' in their memoirs. It simply didn't happen. A hundred thousand Jews (maybe 200k?) died from typhus and malnutrition caused by allied bombing of food and supply lines. There were some isolated carbon monoxide poisoning incidents and there were a few incidents of officers getting out of hand and mowing some Jews down with machine guns but that happens during major conflicts like world wars. There is no evidence of systemic genocide, especially not genocide through zyklon B which is difficult to use as poison. (unless you define genocide as pressuring an exploitative group to leave a region they specifically moved into to be exploitative). Side note: there's a video out there of 4 college students that sat in a small room with loads of zyklon B and they had not negative effects. Zyklon B was a delousing agent. It's the same stuff they used at the United States border on Mexican migrant farm workers.

Are you suggesting they all planned on lying about the holocaust?

Absolutely. Victimhood amplification is a known tactic Jews have used for hundreds of years. They talk about using this tactic in their own literature. They even talk about how they believe the Jewish people are uniquely predisposed to playing up the victim role. Look at German vilification and decades of the '6 million' number mentioned in print media to prime the public. They use the 'nudge' and 'priming' social engineering psychology just as ubiquitously today. In fact it's a lot more advanced and nuanced.

What about general eisenhower who ordered the army to document the evidence?In order to believe the holocaust was a hoax is to believe thousands of people were in on a conspiracy.

He documented deaths from malnutrition and typhus. It was a war zone. The camps were full of people that had been underfed for months, for some years. You're going to have a lot of dead bodies. If Eisenhower had found systemic 'gassing' why didn't he talk about it in his memoirs? The only people that really gassed people this century were communist Jewish commissars in Russian gassing their political opponents in custom designed trucks.

where's the evidence that hitler wanted to take the logical/moral position on jews?

Don't use the "PROVE IT PROVE IT PROVE IT!" debate tactic on me. I'm not going to take my time to hunt down documents for you when you probably don't give a shit anyway. If you want to go down this path you're welcome to start reading on, https://holocausthandbooks.com/, https://codoh.com/library/ and unz.com

Start here:

https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/

If you can't wrap your head about Hitler being a moral person watch this

https://odysee.com/@TheWizardsOfTheZoo:c/The-Greatest-Story-Never-Told:be

Even if he did, let me get this straight.Hitler was ok with killing fellow europeans over territory claims

It's regrettable that so many Europeans died in WWII but Hitler assumed the allies were going to follow centuries old rules of war that had been formalized in Europe to reduce civilian causalities. They did not. Churchill bombed civilians first. Furthermore, Europeans fighting with eachother is something that was quite common before Hitler and will continue to happen after Hitler. It's part of our Faustian nature.

and a conspiracy that poland was killing germans in their country

There's evidence that in parts of Poland (parts that had lots of ethnic Germans) Germans were getting poorly treated. The German public wanted that issue resolved.Hitler at his core was a populist; Hitler just did what the people wanted. Many Polish saw the German army as liberators. There's also lots of primary source evidence showing German troops treated the Poles far better than the Russian troops for what it's worth.

but killing jews when they declared war on you, and have killed white christians in the russian revolution would be seen as immoral for hitler?

I'm a little confused with your point here. If you want me to try to respond you're going to need to rewrite this.

Again, if he was smart he'd not declare war on europe, and delt with the jews in his country first then declare war.

Hitler didn't really want a war. Listen to his speeches in the 30's. He wanted a strong people and a fascist semi militarized populace but that's more of a politically Germanic thing. It wasn't to take over the world. It was a philosophy of staying strong and defensive in case other powers want to try to fuck up your shit. If you study European history that's not very shocking that a region of Europe would want to stay on guard and 'strong' in case another region wanted a war. Long story short: It's the central banking powers, Jew business community, and especially the Rothschild controlled alcoholic Churchill that wanted a war. Read Mein Kampf.

Unless you'll claim the jews controlled the allies and would declare war on germany for killing jews in their country(which would completely overplay their hand)then there's no reason to attack poland,and other countries.

Read this. I think you'll have a better understanding of WWI and WWII. (at the very least you will have an understanding of the 'dissident' perspective on the two wars).

[–]oligarchracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It simply didn't happen. A hundred thousand Jews (maybe 200k?) died from typhus and malnutrition caused by allied bombing of food and supply lines.

Given the Nazis were going full Ghengis Khan on the Russians, it doesn't pass the bullshit test to say they would have declared Jews off limits to atrocities. Yes Jews have a proven track record of greatly exaggerating claims of persecution, before, during and after the war up to the present day, but it's naive to think the Nazis weren't ruthless enough to carry out some of the claims made against them. They had the means and motive.