Have you taken the vaccine?

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[–]Richard_Parker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I did yesterday, pretty much agaiinst my will. I had Covid before, so have natural immunity, and I am not over 65. Nor do I suffer from comorbidities that put me at high risk. Here in NYC, I have to get the vaccine by the 13th if I want to go to the gym. There are possible side effects from the vaccines, so far in the clear. In the end I measure the risks of not having access to the gym against those of the vaccine. Not going to the gym mm is going to have a drastic effect on my health and body. 100 percent certainty of that. the vaccine is a much lower risk. I am not really agaisnt the vaccineas I am against the vaccine mandate and the militant zealotry for masks and vaccines.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

pretty much agaiinst my will.

Were you arrested and tied down?

[–]Richard_Parker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Understand there are different levels of coercion. Other people are getting the vaccine (against their will) just to keep their jobs. And do not give me that shit that it is a choice. Most people need a job to live. More and more places are making vaccination a prerequisite to vaccination, as well, so it is not as if one can just quit and get another job right off the bat.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Other people are getting the vaccine (against their will) just to keep their jobs

If I told you drink poison to keep your job you'd obviously take your chances working under the table. So obviously you are unconvinced the jab is deadly. That's fine. I have no issue with that. It's really over most peoples heads to dig down deep on the data and see how deadly this thing is.

What I don't understand is why you'd volunteer to lose more rights. Bodily autonomy and property rights. Once those are gone it's game over. You're a subject not a citizen. It doesn't matter if you have a job for a few more months or years. Your liberty and freedom is gone. Once they have a jab in your arm every year or every month then they know they can basically take everything else because if you resist they adulterate your monthly injection or they use the control grid to isolate and punish you for your opposition. You've gotta pick a hill and I guess this isn't your hill but that's why I asked the other question in the other comment chain. What's your hill richard? At what point do you say no? Government controlled digital currency? 5 shots? 6 shots? Mandatory cell phone check in at all businesses? Mandatory reparations for non whites? Gun confiscations (using the control grid created by the vax passports)? Do you see what's going on? It's not going to stop. Even if the vaxx is totally safe it's not really about the vaxx it's about the control grid. It's about getting rid of people like us and making people like use easy to monitor, isolate and elimination. By accepting the vax you're allowing the government another step to enslave us forever. Everytime we cuck we make it a little harder on ourselves in the future.

[–]Richard_Parker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So you are not only convinced that there possible long term side effects we do not know about, but the jab is deadly, as a certainty? Yeah sorry, don't but that.

Right now I am stuck here, in the short term (next year) I have to focus on training, getting my health back, then look for s way to get out of here. Right now for me going to the gym is more important.

If you are proven right I am currently powerless to stop it. It is clear to me the gym I belong to did not want to go along with it, but given what my neighborhood is what is, a handful of members would surely turn them in.

I hate my gym or did, only go there bc only one within reasonable distance. It is managed by this hot but nasty Greek chicken. Control F and her name on the yelp page get thirty hits from one star reviews.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're a regular here and I enjoy your contributions so I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I'm just trying to understand how someone who has your level of understanding about dissident politics could just suspend that and get a vaccine pushed by big pharma. These are the pharmaceutical companies that have turned the health care system into centrally controlled drug dispensaries. Modern hospitals do everything in their power to make you chronically sick not healthy. Didn't you follow the Sackler family and opiod crisis? That was engineered to kill poor whites. These people hate you and want to see you and your family raped, broke and dead and they think it's funny.

Right now for me going to the gym is more important

I hope that you avoid the complications from the spike proteins produced by the gene therapy shot and I desperately hope that you do figure out a line that you will not cross. Try to figure it our now so that when it comes (and it will come) you will be ready to stand your ground.

[–]Richard_Parker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm just trying to understand how someone who has your level of understanding about dissident politics could just suspend that and get a vaccine pushed by big pharma.

It is really bc I am stuck in NYC and the political and legal dynamics that go along with that. This combined with vastly different risk assessments each of has made led me to this decision, certainly under a fair amount of coercion. I gained a fair amount of weight during the lockdown and have been really focused now for two months and I am not going to let this shit derail me, not that I have overcome the inertia and things are starting to hum along. I am happy to correspond privately if you want. I resist the notion this is some sinister is some sinister Jonestoen plot, and if it were, only ones left standing would be rural whites and pockets of minorities 8nnthe cities. Again, I did not want to take the vaccine but my gym is not going to look the other way and no one is going to stop DeBlasio's mandate, certainly not before Monday. I am not doing that Excelsior thing though, just going to show my vaccine card or w picture of it.