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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Are we allowed to advocate violence at Saidit?

(It's a serious question, because I've been asked not to advocate violence.)

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The comment can't be removed if nobody reports it. You just made a comment (with 20 back and forth replies) without actually using the report button. Which makes me think this is just about clogging up real debate. So that's another strike against your reputation socks. Everytime you do this it undermines your 'here in good faith' claims. Which as you know is also a rule here.

/u/caparvoneverec also doesn't have a history of violent comments so he will not be banned for the comment so don't try to lobby to have him banned. /u/jasoncarswell is a quality contributor to this sub and saidit in general but he could learn from DAR regulars that engaging with socks is kind of a losing battle in most cases. Don't take the bait.

edit. Socks. You're actually making me consider a new rule to the sub: no 'Saul Alinsky' tactics. You're clearly playing the 'make them follow their own rules' tactic. You don't actually care about discussing dissident politics now do you? You simply want to climb into people's headspace and sow discord. It's not going to stand and I predict you're going to be just like /u/salos60000 begging to come back and debate us in 6 months after you're banned. We might not be in the mood for second chances in the future.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Which makes me think this is just about clogging up real debate. So that's another strike against your reputation socks.

No - that's not what happened. I asked a question. I did not want to report anyone. In fact, had I hit the report button, and noted that I hit the report button, you or someone else would claim that I am trying to cause trouble. My question did not "clog up real debate." It's not a complicated question. I also did not get an answer to the question. Regarding 'debate' about "China bans feminine men from TV", it's good to ask about reactions, especially if they advocate violence. For example, is that a debate that one can have on Saidit, and if so, why would it apply to this post and not to other posts? Before I asked the question, I looked for notes about advocating violence in the Saidit rules and here at DAR, but only saw the last line in the POD. I also see others advocate violence, and wondered why the rule applied to me the other day, but not to the others. But that's not my question. It's a simple question about that post, and it's not a good question if the post is removed (which has now happened). I did not want the post removed, and I did not clog up the discussion. And I did not want the user banned. Nothing in my post impies any of this. Nor does it look like lobbying. Your note about Carswell is odd, because I did not ask Carswell this question, nor was my question related to Carswell, not in the least. My discussion with him related to a different post where he kept asking me to respond to a video about something else. I refused. He wouldn't take no for an answer, and continued bullying me. So I merely asked him about bullying, which was the main subject of that conversation. It's unrelated to my question about violence. I also know absolutely nothing about Saul Alinsky, nor should I have to know about him, in order to ask a simple question. And my question is not directly about 'dissident politics', whcih you now tell me I'm not interested in. It's unrelated to my question. No, my question is not an attempt to "climb into someone's head and sow discord". This is a strange claim that could apply to every disagreement and to no disagreeements. Your note is really making numerous assumptions because I asked a question, or because you don't like what I said to Jason. Why have you done this? There isn't anything factual in these arguments. Really strange this is. (Also - I've never been subscribed to DAR.)

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

too long didn't read