Do you think given time Africa will fix itself and migration will decrease?

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[–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It's like you're not even reading or understanding what I'm saying.

This does not mean anything by itself. (the Zulu did win some victories against the British but never had a real chance) * But in contrast to pretty much all the other races, they don't make a huge dent in numbers.

A sub-Saharan nation like Ethiopia not only defeated Italy in the First Italo-Ethiopian War but mustered over 100,000. Middle age states like the Mali Empire was able to muster tens of thousands for wars. They defeated Portugal in numerous skirmishes when they first arrived which forced the Portuguese king to sign a peace treaty. There is no reason to believe Mesolithic African tribes couldn't muster around the same numbers as Europeans, or at least enough to also take down their big game if they wanted to or could reach most parts of Africa.

When given a gun they kill elephants quite happily

Once again, in Mesolithic sub-Saharan Africa, Europeans wouldn't have made all the Elephants/Lions there extinct either. It's simply far too large and difficult to access more areas than in Europe. The increased demand for elephants and ivory is a product of the modern world and why we see this hunting far more than we would in the Mesolithic.

[–]Ethnosomniator 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

"Ethiopia not only defeated Italy in the First Italo-Ethiopian War but mustered over 100,000"

That is a known outlier, the very definition and source of african pride. It is the ONLY outlier in a series of african defeats. It's like arguing with a child. We don't find patterns when deliberately looking for irregularities. Nota bene that Ethopians are among the whitest looking bunch of the continent. The Mali "empire" is a we-wuz-kangs tier meme. Please make sure to always read some critical books about topics you want to get to know better. Or try to falsify internet tales by yourself when citing i09 globohomo blog stories.

There is no reason to believe Mesolithic African tribes...

I am beginning to tire of arguments I already debunked. European lions DIED OUT IN THE MESOLITHIC. They were all killed by White men. There's no big cat save for comparatively tiny lynxes left that are extremely shy and often weigh less than a labrador retriever. Africa has the lion, the leopard, the cheetah and a bunch of smaller cats. Obviously we did things differently and more thoroughly. Yet you simply repeat "a MYSTERY!!!" and drop some Diamondesque obscurantisms. The last new argument is beyond ridiculous, a new low:

increased demand for elephants and ivory is a product of the modern world and why we see this hunting far more than we would in the Mesolithic.

Yes, shooting something dead, cutting off teeth to sell for dollar dollar bills is far easier than organising a successful mammoth hunt and working for months with the newly aquired resources. That is the point of the argument.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I am beginning to tire of arguments I already debunked. European lions DIED OUT IN THE MESOLITHIC.

You're consistently dodging what I said:

It's simply far too large and difficult to access more areas than in Europe.

Africa is 3 times larger than Europe. Tigers still exist in Asia, so do elephants as well. This is very likely why lions or other big cats in Africa hadn't gone extinct not your retarded hypothesis.

The Mali "empire" is a we-wuz-kangs tier meme. Please make sure to always read some critical books about topics you want to get to know better.

There's numerous reputable sources about the Mali Empire, try taking your own advice.

[–]Ethnosomniator 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Lots of big cats were in Europe next to places we now live in. They were hunted to extinction. Lots of big cats in africa RIGHT NEXT TO HUMAN SETTLEMENTS. Do you think the Massai hunting parties drive in trains to kill lions? They simply walk there, barefoot. But they did not exterminate them as we and other races did.

Your own argument falls flat on your face! Yes, in remote places, animals, especially stealthy ones like single tigers can survive longer. But megafauna was easy to track. Elephant herds are also easy to track and provide sophisticated, capable hunters an abundance of calories and lots of resources.

African tourism features safaris as a prominent and lucrative entertainment. Those things are great because it is so easy to get to see a huge variety of interesting animals which the negroid did not bother to tame or extinct. It's usually very convenient as you simply drive around nice, flat vistas. Some friends saw the big five in South Africa in one go!

There's absolutely no reason to believe Whites would not have hunted down all lions (far too dangerous) and rhinos, tamed the zebra, the elephant and the buffalo and drove the leopard away. You fallen for ridiculous anti White stories. "Blacks have it hard, Whites had it always easy!" when it was always the other way around. Precisely because Africa is so large there's really no reason to believe that the many very nice corners could not be exploited easily. But for that, you need completely different people. Those people who had it harder and who had to evolve to come up with ideas, concepts and solutions.

Also, just try to look up hard facts about the "Mali empire". For the richest dynasty of all time, it's almost inconceivable how little they have left. I'm sure you can come up with a colourful just-so story, a tearjerking narrative or trivial factoid handwaving to the world why old Mali had it so hard and never stood a chance.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There's absolutely no reason to believe Whites would not have hunted down all lions (far too dangerous) and rhinos, tamed the zebra, the elephant and the buffalo and drove the leopard away.

Indo-Aryans in Northern India didn't wipe out all the elephants, tigers, and Asiatic lions in that area. Your argument is getting ridiculous. These people were extremely similar to Europeans during the time period we're discussing.

Yes, in remote places, animals, especially stealthy ones like single tigers can survive longer. But megafauna was easy to track. Elephant herds are also easy to track and provide sophisticated, capable hunters an abundance of calories and lots of resources.

Did you forget about the elephants in Asia? Again, in the biggest continents big cats and elephants still exist.

Also, just try to look up hard facts about the "Mali empire". For the richest dynasty of all time

Where did you get they're the richest dynasty from? Mansa Musa was the richest person their dynasty was not the richest obviously.

[–]Ethnosomniator 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The tiger is practically gone and remains only in tiny, remote corners. I expressly wrote that Whites would not have driven the leopard to extinction because it's a stealthy loner. Same goes for the jaguar in south America. This proves my point yet again. I've been to tiger expeditions in India without getting to see one after two days in remote regions - which is the rule. In Africa, you can bet that you will see a lot of paleofauna with one comfy, straightforward ride - it's simply waiting there for you, pretty much undisturbed by negroes until the White man brought high quality rifles which made killing very, very easy. Do you now understand the difference between large animals hanging out in groups in the open and single, roaming stalkers? Also, the asiatic lion is practially gone! What an "argument"! Without White conservation efforts, he'd be gone already. We seem to have managed to increase the population to a meagre 2-300.

Again, (!and again, and again....) the Indian elephant wasn't wiped out because he was tamed. Smarter peopler discovered the use of this magnificent creature. Negroes dindu nuffin of that sort. The zebra - a far easier mount to train than paleo horses out of the box AND more powerful- nothing! The elephant! The buffalo! All have clear analogues in nonafrican regions. I'm not even bothering to go into the others, so much wasted potential!

Mansa Musa was a typical dindu who squandered his fabulous riches. There's nothing left to show. Cultures starting from the Sumerians left us something. The richest man simply lived like a Mike Tyson or Floyd Mayweather and wasted literal tons of gold. The "ruins" were creatively rebuilt by guess who? Good, old Europeans, of course. The real tragedy is not the wasted potential because there's little shame in stupid people living out their low urges. The real tragedy is "liberal" minded drones exercising their ideological training to come up with stories and narratives to justify ruining the world by adhering to their quasi religious, degenerate beliefs.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also, the asiatic lion is practially gone!

Did you forget we're talking about the Mesolithic? Asiatic lions didn't become endangered until the 1800s.

the Indian elephant wasn't wiped out because he was tamed.

We're talking about the Mesolithic once again. Asian elephants were only domesticated 4,000 years ago. Not only that, they have far more wild elephants today than "tamed" ones. Yes, some of them were able to be captured and used in war in antiquity but this means very little because the species was not tamed.

Asian elephants have been domesticated for about 4,000 years.

India harbours more than 50 percent of the wild elephant population and about 20 percent of the captive elephant population of Asia.

The earliest evidence of captive elephants dates to the Indus Valley Civilization about 4,500 years ago.

http://www.fao.org/3/ad031e/ad031e0g.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_elephants

https://annamiticus.com/2012/08/12/12-things-you-might-not-know-about-elephants/