The State Of South Africa w/ Conscious Caracal

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[–]Bagarmoossen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Defeating dumb, helpless africans has always been extremely easy for the white man. The european colonial regimes and the Boer state collapsed due to soviets aiding, arming and training the terrorists while the west sabotaged and undermined white governments. Communist Jews had a particularly important role in organizing the anti-apartheid terrorist movements. I think the future for white South Africans is brighter than most people would imagine, especially considering the fragile state of the globalist western regime.

China is also an important factor. The chinese are godless, almost satanic materialists and will aid whoever they believe will best help them advance their economic interests. Unfortunately gaining the sympathy of the chinese might be needed for the Boers, which might be hard given the servile and doglike nature of africans.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Defeating dumb, helpless africans has always been extremely easy for the white man.

Only when the Europeans were the only ones with guns. Italy's defeat by Ethiopia in the First Italo-Ethiopian war showed whites could be defeated through sheer numbers. The situation will be worse in South Africa because more Africans would be armed at this point, and they have a numbers advantage. White South Africans are only 8.9% of the population. They should migrate if it comes to war.

[–]WatchOutThere 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Italy had less than 20,000 men, of which two thirds were Eritreans. The Eithopians had mustered an army of over 200,000, and that is not counting Russian and French forces. The Battle Adwa, the decisive moment in the war, was fought between Italy and a Franco-Russo battalion group. The Eithopians had little impact in Adwa.

In the Second Italian-Eithopian conflict, the Italians had a force of a bit under 200,000, whilst the Eithopians nearly had a million soldiers. It lasted around a year and a half with the result being a total capitulation of Eithopia. Over 400,000 Eithopians were killed and only 40,000 at most were lost for the Italians.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The Battle Adwa, the decisive moment in the war, was fought between Italy and a Franco-Russo battalion group.

It says France and Russia only supplied weapons, with Russia sending a handful of advisors. The battle of Adwa was fought by the Ethiopians themselves:

Unbeknownst to General Baratieri, Emperor Menelik knew his troops had exhausted the ability of the local peasants to support them and had planned to break camp the next day (2 March). The Emperor had risen early to begin prayers for divine guidance when spies from Ras Alula (Abba Nega), his chief military advisor, brought him news that the Italians were advancing. The Emperor summoned the separate armies of his nobles and with the Empress Taytu beside him, ordered his forces forward. Negus Tekle Haymanot commanded the right wing with his troops from Gojjam, Ras Alula the left with his troops from Tigray, Ras Makonnen and Ras Mengesha Yohannes the center, and Ras Mikael at the north side leading the Wollo Amhara cavalry;[47] the Emperor and his consort remained with the reserve.[46] The Ethiopian forces positioned themselves on the hills overlooking the Adwa valley, in perfect position to receive the Italians, who were exposed and vulnerable to crossfire.[31]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Adwa

Ethiopians won victories by utilizing the terrain, trapping them between mountains and valleys. If you read the actual numbers on the source as well, Ethiopia had 100,000 with weapons, only 80,000 had firearms. There is even a far greater discrepancy in South Africa between blacks and whites.

Italy had less than 20,000 men, of which two thirds were Eritreans.

This is another lie. Slightly over half were Italians as the source confirms.

[–]WatchOutThere 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Goypedia is your source? Really? I had a minor in pre-WW2 history and produced a short essay about this very topic. Don't lecture me about supposedly lying. What would be purpose for doing so?

[–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Goypedia" as you call it cites numerous sources for their claims at the bottom. Many people here that are alt-right have cited wikipedia in the past as well. Including mods. I'd retract my statement about you lying if you can show me a single source stating a Franco-Russo battalion fought the Italians rather than the Ethiopians at the battle of Adwa.