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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Yeah you would have done much better in the same situation. You would have skillfully defeated the combined forces of literally the entire world through your big brain diplomacy. You would have taken the jews' power from them without a war because you're just so smart, they'd have had no choice but to give up their empires in France, Britain, America and Russia instead of just destroying you and killing 10s of millions of Europeans in the process.

[–]marc_gee[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

You would have taken the jews' power from them without a war

Why didn't Hitler have the power to deport jews in Germany without instigating war?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

1) they didn't want to be cut off from the German market

2) they ruled the 4 world empires in France, Britain, Russia and America

3) no one wanted them

[–]marc_gee[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There was the plan to deport them to Madagascar I think. Serious question, why do you think war with whites was required to to corral jews into camps and then deport them? Lots of jews went voluntarily IIRC. Can we really say war was required if it wasn't even attempted without a war?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Serious question, why do you think war with whites was required to to corral jews into camps and then deport them?

That's not what happened. Jews were in power in Germany, they lost their power so the rest of international jewry endeavoured to destroy Germany.

Lots of jews went voluntarily IIRC. Can we really say war was required if it wasn't even attempted without a war?

The war wasn't about kicking the jews out of Germany from Germany's perspective. They were regaining lost land and wanted to fight bolshevism and take some of Russia's land. If you read NS propaganda from the 20s and 30s they talk about mismanagement in Russia time and time again, they talk about how Russia could have been the granary of Europe. They wanted to fertile farmland to feed their growing population. If you know anything about the Soviet union you will be familiar with the many famines, most notably the Holodomor. The Nazis sought to put the land to proper use I suppose you could say.

[–]marc_gee[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They could have had a jew-free Germany without war then and used patience and diplomacy from there to free Europe, like I said. To me this seems like the white positive path instead of the scorched earth path that killed so many.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How the fuck do you know they 'could have' achieved this hypothetical you've come up with?

Alright I've come up with my own one: Germans could have just sailed to the moon and fired death rays from their flying saucers on Jews from space. Case closed Nazis failed. Do you realize this sounds a little insane and speculative?