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[–]WoodyWoodPecker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Climategate proved that scientists fudged the numbers and cooked the books. Won't allow any peer reviews of their findings.

[–]binaryblob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

How would we know the difference between anyone trying to protect nature and it being used as a pretext for more power?

If we just have to believe some guy in a suit, that's not exactly convincing.

I think if the government wanted to protect nature, they would just build nuclear power plants until the price of electricity is below a cent/kWh, because at that point nobody wants fossil fuels anymore. The fact they aren't doing that suggests the hypothesis presented in this clip.

[–]yellowsnow2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Because the US tricked Iran into building nuclear power infrastructure and then tried to use the nuclear fuel as a way to control Iran, now Iran has 300 centrifuges that should be capable of creating the fuel needs of the whole planet if it was to go to nuclear power in a real way. But it angered the US that Iran entered the market and gave choice and price competition to the nuclear fuel market.

I think a lot of the fear created around nuclear as a choice for energy is just a fear campaign. If the rulers could stop acting like greedy children I think nuclear power is the way to go. Modern nuclear power production has to be much safer than these concepts we have of 50 years old plants.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Iran wanted a nuclear weapon; that's why they had the centrifuges. Also, the enrichment went beyond what is needed for energy production.

[–]yellowsnow2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It all started by the US fucking them over. Iran wanted a nuke and who could blame them really. Because the US/CIA were trying to rule their country by extortion with the fuel and I'm sure threats were involved once Iran completely dominated the fuel market stopping the US from using their control of the market for extortion of Iran and other nations. Also I ran had to watch the covert and overt conquest of all it's neighbors by the CIA/US.

The US has been planning to overthrow Iran since 2001. But I think they were conquered covertly or maybe bribed/threatened into complying with the globalists since the globalists are no longer talking about them.

https://youtu.be/6Knt3rKTqCk?si=okXFab9j3DWq-z8f

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Because the US/CIA were trying to rule their country by extortion with the fuel

I am finding it difficult to communicate with you. Please start talking as if you do not have a disability.

[–]yellowsnow2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I guess it troubles you that my comments do not parrot the mocking bird media version of events. Iran did not build 300 centrifuges to build one nuke just because of being evil and hostile towards america's freedom.

[–]binaryblob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Obviously, they would use it for energy production and preparing weapons production. Building nuclear technology is inevitable in the long run for any country, because technology advances and it's entirely possible someone will someday figure out a way to extract uranium from sea water and do the separation via chemical means (this would remove the need for ultracentrifuges and would be a nightmare for those trying to stop proliferation (which I think won't work in the long run (let's say for more than 100 years))).

I think any country developing nuclear technology and nuclear weapons is just acting like a sovereign state. One should be worried when one lives in a a country that doesn't have the ambition to develop such weapons (such a country would be literally 90 years behind(!)).

The problem with nuclear weapons is that when lots of people have them, the probability of one of them being crazy goes up, and so global thermonuclear war would get closer. Many people feel uneasy when highly religious countries get nuclear weapons (and the US can be counted among those, but let's say a country like the UK seems to be fairly stable). If let's say Norway would get a nuclear weapon, I wouldn't see that as a problem.