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[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

We have massive amounts of data and proof that this was all bull shit.

Just recently they decided masks are more harmful than helpful, again.

[–]ActuallyNot 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

Just recently they decided masks are more harmful than helpful, again.

What possible harm is there from wearing a mask?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

This was well known long before COVID. You can do the research your self.

Not knowing is like a sin at this point. Being like “how is this possible” at this point, it’s way beyond stupid or reckless.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Thanks, I'll get right on to that then.


Oh, I found they significantly prevented SARS in Hong Kong prior to 2004: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3323085/

Is that it? If you don't get SARS, you risk having a long life, and dying of something other than infection?


Oh I found another one from 2009. It shows that mask wearing protects healthcare workers from SARS in Beijing: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1365-3156.2009.02255.x

It doesn't mention harm though. Perhaps the harm fell through the gaps.


Oh there was a cochrane review on them in 2009!: https://www.bmj.com/content/339/bmj.b3675.short

They get that they reduce infection by about 70%, but again fail to mention this harm thing that it is a sin to not know about.

It's going to be difficult to get a more authoritative source than cochrane though. I have to confess, I'm starting to think you're talking shit.

Are you talking shit, FuckYourMom?

By "research" do you mean avoid scholarly papers and find some youtube videos by a crackpot and a paranoid schizophrenic with no scholarly background and a penchant for misinterpretation?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I know this is hard to accept, but your science is lying to you. Your politicians are lying to you. Your fauci is lying to you.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh. My. Flying. Spaghetti. Monster. By "research" you do mean avoid scholarly papers.

For fuck's sake.

There are no words.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

https://www.cochrane.org/CD006207/ARI_do-physical-measures-such-hand-washing-or-wearing-masks-stop-or-slow-down-spread-respiratory-viruses

It seems like you being disingenuous and willingly stupid.

Like are you paid to be here. You have to willingly ignore all the facts for several years to say some dumb ass shit like that.

Let me guess: ivermectin, a z pack, hydroqchlorquine, vitamin d, etc, all do nothing against COVID, right?

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

https://www.cochrane.org/CD006207/ARI_do-physical-measures-such-hand-washing-or-wearing-masks-stop-or-slow-down-spread-respiratory-viruses

This is supposed to be evidence of masks doing harm long before CoVID?

A paper from last month with harm being summarised as "discomfort was mentioned"?

It seems like you being disingenuous and willingly stupid.

When faced with people who base their views and opinions on verified science, most people go, "oh i see how people would have that view."

You go, "well that's willingly stupid".

There's a disconnect here. What's wrong with you?


Insufficient vitamin d affects the immune system. Supplementing will improve outcomes against any infection but only if you're insufficient to start with.

But vitamin D insufficiency is reasonably common.

I don't know what a z pack is.

Edit i googled z-pak. It's the antibiotic azithromycin. Antibiotics treat bacterial infections. They don't treat viral infections.

Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine are not effective against CoVID.

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine are not effective against CoVID

https://c19ivm.org/meta.html

Science says otherwise but let me guess, you believe in flying spaghetti monsters, not actual science

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Science says otherwise

Does it?

You should link to some real science then.

Like a scholarly paper that has been submitted to peer review and published. A webpage pushing ivermectin

Here is an example looking at Metformin, Ivermectin, and Fluvoxamine for Covid-19 treatment.

CONCLUSIONS
None of the three medications that were evaluated prevented the occurrence of hypoxemia, an emergency department visit, hospitalization, or death associated with Covid-19.

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

https://c19ivm.org/

Endless list of studies sorted by date on this page, which you would know if you actually cared to look at the website I gave you.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Yes they're sorted by date.

Your claim is "Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine are not effective against CoVID" is not supported by science.

Which (if any) of those papers do t you think supports your claim?

At you can see from the paper my previous comment, ivermectin is not effective against CoVID.

[–]Bonn1770 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Take the vax
Get myocarditis
Get replacement heart

What's the problem?

[–]handbananasrevenge 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This has nothing to do with her health or with public safety. This is about punishing someone they feel is being “disobedient”.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah. You want to get vaccinated before your transplant, because the vaccines are less effective afterwards, due the the impact on the anti-rejection drugs on your immune system.

It's true that if you're heart is fucked you're at increased risk from the vaccination (and the disease for that matter), but the time to find out if you're going to die from covid is before the operation: There are fewer donor hearts than recipients that need them. (Except in China, where despite a very low proportion of the population being donors they seem to have sufficient organs for transplant).

[–]JohnRaymond 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Many will HANG

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    [–]Bonn1770 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Impaling works for an army, but the guillotine makes it personal, especially when they hold up the still blinking head of the king for the mob.

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      [–]spaghetti 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      It is a very effective punishment. I would enjoy sitting in a nice chair smoking a blunt and sipping some cold wine while I watch.

      [–]Vulptex[A] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      Sorry, you can't advocate violence, especially not toward specific people, and especially not toward government officials. If it were allowed this site could be taken down completely by the various hosting companies, domain registrars, cloudflare, or even the government.

      [–]JohnRaymond 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I Wii update. Fair enough

      [–]JohnRaymond 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      2nd. Just updatedV

      [–]Vulptex[A] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      I don't see any changes. You're still advocating violence, and still even toward specific people. Sorry but I can't allow that according to this site's rules.

      [–]JohnRaymond 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I was gone. Sorry for delay. Please go to first post. 2nd sentence was added: "After Nuremberg2 trials for Nuremberg code violations..." This is 75 year international law. I advocate it as well as probably25-35 per cent of populace. This isn't good for you?

      And specific people are on video coercing vax. Prima facie case. They deserve a trial, as I wrote. But they are animals

      [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      This isn't up to me

      [–]dissidentrhetoric 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      If she gets a vaccine it will likely destroy her heart new and old.