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[–]tiny-brown-mug 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I'm not against cities being more bike-friendly. That's great. I hate sharing the road with flocks of cyclists. They need their own separate bike paths next to the car routes.

But this is basically punishing people for driving their own cars. That's weird.

[–]Markimus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I don't really see the problem, if there's good public transport infrastructure, the city is walkable and cycleable etc then that would be preferable anyway. It's the opposite which is miserable, being forced to have to own a car, being stuck in traffic etc.

[–]tiny-brown-mug 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

But this is still making the choice to own and drive your own car a lot more of a pain in the neck. It's not the same as making car ownership illegal, but by punishing people for driving their own cars, you're passive-aggressively tightening the vice grip on car drivers. That's not right. This is one step closer to the kind of public monitoring and punishment system that seems to be trying to roll itself out all over.

If I own a car I should be free to drive it. It's my headache to deal with if I get stuck in traffic. By saying I can't drive home directly but have to drive 20 minutes out of my way because the environment, that's too much control. Everyone is free to get a bike, or take a bus.

[–]Bigs 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

True story - over 20 years ago I applied for a job with a local council in the UK. During the interview they specifically told me that part of my role, and the council's vision, was to make private car ownership difficult, expensive and, if possible, worse than using public transport.

It's the only job interview of my life that I walked out of.

[–]tiny-brown-mug 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That is absolutely bizarre. I'm glad you walked out of that one. What a "vision"! And this was 20 years ago... Did they give any reason? Just being jerks and making sure people owned as little as possible and had no real freedom of movement?

[–]Bigs 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They didn't really give a reason, just the goal of shifting the public out of their own cars and onto public transport. They seemed surprised I was not already onboard with the idea.

Even back then I was vaguely aware of 'Agenda 30' or 'Agenda 21'. I now know 21 is part of 30, and yeah, Alex Jones may be a nutcase and a blowhard, but he's right about a lot of stuff, and his title 'Prison Planet' was spot on.