Putting aside emotions, why should we reject the possibility of spirits wholesale?

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I understand that a lot of global cultural traditions are factually incorrect, and also people have taboos and suffer for no reason in a lot of medical cases. However, there is almost a religious aspect to the claim that the physical is all there is, an irrational dogma to dismiss as impossible that something can be believed as possible.

All human cultures have claimed to be in contact with a spirit world. They have shamans and ritual. Are all of the shamans in history madmen, unscrupulous liars, retarded, or delusional? Claiming to venture in the spirit world, they effect events in the physical world.

In optics, we have learned that there are frequencies of light we do not physically perceive. There are electromagnetic waves all around us that we don't even notice. Is it really absurd to believe in the possibility of dimensions around us that we cannot perceive or measure?

Finally it is clear that the parasite class engages in strange occult behavior, like worshiping demons and pagan gods (like Shiva at CERN), telling us their plans (for example, they give us enough information so that if we go along with it we are morally culpable), raping and sacrificing innocent victims, and generally corrupting our standards of ethics and encouraging deviancy and selfishness. They hate Christianity in general.

It seems that it is reasonable to suppose that at least two factions in the spiritual world are warring, and some of it is leaking out into the physical world.

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[–]jet199 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I've personally experienced too much weird shit to think there's nothing else going on.

Even if no other spiritual intelligence exists there certainly is some kind of psychic communication between people which gives the appearance of one.

[–]Vulptex 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I simply can't believe it's coincidence when more than one person has the exact same vision or dream at the same time.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We know that human's brain waves sync up when people are together. The nature of time and space means there's no reason why that can't still have effects when they then move apart. The trouble is that people imagine brain to brain communication is going to be clear words or images when it's actually acting way below that level of definition most of the time, more on the level of unconscious impulses.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If there were spirits you think we'd have concrete evidence of it. I'm not sure if you've noticed, but ever since everyone started carrying recording equipment with them everywhere, the number of miracles, ghosts, and other supernatural phenomenon has all but evaporated and of course, nobody has managed to film a spook.

Although on the other hand, there's Ouija. I won't keep a board around any more and I keep crosses above every entrance. Otherwise I get nightmares.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What sort of evidence are you looking for?

Some Catholic miracles I know have not been debunked. For example, when the host turns into heart tissue, people dismiss it by saying that if it really happened it would be on the news. Newscasters won’t report it because they have already assumed it’s a fraud. They won’t be open-minded and investigate it. But when you think about the evidence and testimonies, there is always the possibility that it is true.

I suppose there are less claims because people already believe in materialism and disregard what they experience. They want to be seen as clever and sophisticated rather than superstitious. Meanwhile Hillary emails dudes about Morloch.

[–]Alan_Crowe 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I disagree with the disparagement of shamans. Take a look at this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUJmKl7QfDU

The weight bobs up and down on the spring. Then a ghost comes in from the left and pushes it to the side. The point of the video is to talk about a mechanistic, materialist explanation of this: it is an example of auto parametric resonance. But the video doesn't actually go through the mathematics. I cannot fill in the mathematical details myself. I doubt that you can do so either. So we just take it on trust that the stuff about a ghost coming in and pushing it sideways is not actually correct.

Notice that scientific knowledge is often hard won and so difficult to understand that only a few people know for themselves that it actually makes sense. Believing in a spirit world makes a lot of sense. More so in the past than the present. One might even claim that the time for believing in the spirit world has passed. But it always represented a reasonable attempt to understand the world.

[–]zyxzevn 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Spirits rule the human world, but everyone pretends they do not.
If you have strong thoughts, there is some spirit there. The mass formation is caused by spirits.

Most spirits pretend they do not exist, because they are afraid of death. Except for the few that are not afraid of death, and those are usually shamanic, extremely religious or occult. So that is why these are the ones that people report about.

The "demons" and "gods" are just human spirits too. Always in groups which makes them seem stronger. Remember how occult murderers (or certain warriors) think they get more powerful by killing people? That is because they have a group of spirits supporting them. And this group-support spiritual power is what the elite are after too, even if they do not know it. They want to feel like a "god". And to collect spirit-groups they like wars and misery.

I help people with psychiatric problems to get rid of them, and it immediately helps them. To do this work, I make contact with the same light that people experience during (good) near-death experiences. This light also deals with spirits that are clearly over their earth-time.