So they are telling the unjabbed to take the jab because the jab works And telling the jabbed to get a booster because the jab doesn’t work All while telling everyone that the unjabbed are putting the jabbed in danger by not getting the jab that didn’t protect the jabbed. #science

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

So they are telling the unjabbed to take the jab because the jab works.

Yes

And telling the jabbed to get a booster because the jab doesn’t work.

No (Vaccines help for 90 days each, helping build immunity to new strains)

All while telling everyone that the unjabbed are putting the jabbed in danger by not getting the jab

Yes

that didn’t protect the jabbed.

No (as it helps for 90 day periods)

science

Yes

[–]StillLessons 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

A reminder, when the vaccines were rolled out, the public was softened up for future injury when the "Fauci Ouchie" term was coined. Why does that matter? Because the expected immediate effects of this shot were known at once to be greater than the vaccines previously deployed. What does that mean? It means that giving this shot - even as acknowledged by the makers - is shocking your immune system; it is taxing it; it is making it work hard to fight the introduced foreign element. That's the meaning of the "feeling like crap" that they told us to expect.

Now you, my dear Socks, are saying, "Meh, no big deal, we'll do this every three months." I guess it never occurs to you to ask, "Hmm, maybe giving a shock treatment to the immune system every three months might exhaust it? Maybe a rested immune system just might function better than a stressed one?"

What you are proclaiming as science is profoundly dangerous, and obviously so, with even a millisecond of basic consideration of human physiology.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Yes, science can be used to help people abuse other people. I appreciate that we do want to know more about vaccines before taking them, but they are among the most tested/used forms of medicine (billions of doses administered). Getting COVID19 can be much worse, one result of which is supposedly the reduction of fertility among men (search: COVID19 reduces fertility).

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

they are among the most tested/used forms of medicine

bull fucking shit dude. mRNA products have never been used on humans before this fake pandemic.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I refer to the tracking of these doses: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

And to the ongoing research: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w

Yes, still much to learn, however.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

dodging my point like a propagandist I see. you're dirty AF socks.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

If I'm dirty AF, so too are billions of others who aren't worried about vaccines.

I think I addressed your points. First test on a human in 2007. (See the Nature link, which also mentions the 'industry' of mRNA vaccine research in the 2000s, which deserves scrutiny.)

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

See the Nature link, which also mentions the 'industry' of mRNA vaccine research in the 2000s, which deserves scrutiny

you don't get to deny science and placate me at the same time. are all historical vaccines mRNA or not? You cannot ethically conflate mRNA with non-mRNA. yet you continue to do so. we're TWO FUCKING YEARS into this.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Not to continue this or to annoy you, but I don't see how I denied science, or placate anyone, or conflate mRNA with non-mRNA, or that nearly 2 years of 8.8 billion doses is the only significant reliable data, by contrast with mRNA research since the late 1990s.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Of course you don't, because then you'd have to lose a debate. 20k dead from Pfizer vax in VAERS was not worth it. New technologies are dangerous.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

this is how you lose a debate like a man: https://saidit.net/s/musicbywomen/comments/8p2e/janis_joplin_little_girl_blue_live_1969/w9xe

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

i thought it was 6 months

will it keep getting reduced

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yes. I found this, but it too will be updated: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02532-4

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

it's cuz the covid keeps mutating, so vaccines aren't the answer to this

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If it spreads, it mutates. If one doesn't get the vaccine, there is greater difficulty dealing with the virus, which also spreads to others. Unvaccinated people are also likely to get COVID more than once, and to be hospitalized. If one gets the vaccine, it helps the body build antibodies that help with the latest strains, and most vaccinated people avoid going to the hospital. But because millions are still unvaccinated, the virus spreads and mutates, and thus everyone still requires the vaccine every [90] days.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

spreads the same vaccinated or not

actually spreads more in the vaccinated now

hospitals are empty tho so it's good that omicron isn't serious

every 30 days is crazy, that is just to increase the chances people get vaccine long haul

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

spreads the same vaccinated or not

No (This conflates, spreading, mutating, and damage caused by COVID. It spreads less among the vaccinated.)

actually spreads more in the vaccinated now

No (This conflates vaccinated and unvaccinated groups in places where they've not had masks.)

hospitals are empty tho so it's good that omicron isn't serious

No (hospitals are packed .)

every 30 days is crazy, that is just to increase the chances people get vaccine long haul

No - every 90 days, though we were initially informed of a 6 month window of vaccine effectiveness

Edit - SORRY - I see that I put 30 days instead of 90 days and have now corrected it. Yikes - that's enough internet for me today.