Misleading us on overpopulation

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[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

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Soybeans? Dogfood! I know the supermarkets have food full of it but I'm pretty cagey about what I eat out here in country Australia. So the Chinese are outbidding the US consumers for them now. Planning long term for the solar minimum? Interesting...

I wonder why they are not growing kidney beans? I buy big 25kg bags of them, which last quite a long time I might add. They are totally nutritious and tasty too. I know the prices went up last decade, used to be $80 a sack and now, $200 probably, but I might buy a couple of spares as they last for decades if kept in drums away from moisture. From my understanding soy was used for centuries by the Asians but only brewed into soy sauce or that tofu extract. It was western mechanized food production practices that turned it into a staple, perhaps you can comment on that aspect?

Good video, thanks for sharing and getting me thinking about food again.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Good to know. I should invest in some kidney beans.

You might want to check out the Ice Age Farmer's content from the last year. I did all in one day. Heavy shit is coming down hard and fast and few see it coming.

I don't know much about food. It wasn't on my radar until this spring/summer with the lockdown. I had a vague dream of making my own garden, but suddenly it's at the top of my list.

Some subs related to growing, food, health, etc:

You might find more knowledgeable answers from the content or posters or commenters in there.

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There is a good doco out there, one of a series, about Leningrad during the Nazi siege. Those poor bastards were eating sawdust and wallpaper glue in the end, and that sort of gets you thinking, well gets some of us thinking anyway. I have no doubt thrown out more rice in my lifetime than eaten, rice is a suss food to begin with and it doesn't keep too well in drums. Some seed foods need oxygen i think, not much, but they are alive and if you exclude it all for years that's what rots them I believe.

Anyway I'm no farmer so I bought out in a farming town surrounded by, well everything, even Beef and Lamb. These are whole foods naturally and I will rely on the farmers if things get really bad in the future. They all sell out the back gate, I have bought from them over the years myself but there are only so many tomatoes and lettuce you can eat hey. I'm not going the chicken and veges route myself, I have too many other interests. I have stocked up on the truly long life stuff but if push comes to shove I suppose I could do potatoes and chickens. A lot of prepping stuff is pushed because it is in vogue and because unemployed people have nothing else to do with their time, but farming on any scale is hard work with sketchy returns. I can buy a years worth of kidney beans with what I earn in one day on the job, why the fuck would I grow them? Just convert the money to silver and gold and ride this end game out is my plan of attack.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Good info. Saved. Sounds like you're well set up. Maybe you're right about the investing.

I got fucked by Big Pharma, long story, so I'm starting from nothing and my career died a decade ago, so I'm starting from nothing now.

I suppose I could be like the other old farts that live near me, watch football, play video games, drink, etc. I'm hoping I can do something with my career again, this time with purpose: to fight the establishment. Also, "wasting" time gardening is not a waste if it's meaningful and fulfilling. I can think of worse ways to spend my time. I wouldn't be doing it if I wasn't concerned, as the preppers are. I might as well enjoy it and take pride in it.

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Nothing wrong with growing food on a small scale if it gives you pleasure, I can't see the point when I'm still working, semi-retired. It's all just dollars and hours to me and then numbers don't add up. A lot of people tell themselves little stories, "Oh it's so much healther" and "well when the collapse comes if you haven't learnt how to farm you'll starve because you'll get it all wrong"

Money, in one form or another, is what makes the world go around and it's always been that way. Even in the depths of the darkages a few old roman gold coins could be bartered. there are always some form of markets, some form of traders, buyers and sellers. My plan is to have the money to survive, and the year or so worth of food I keep is just a backup for that in case we have a period of total anarchy.

I had a molar extracted last week, cost me $270. How many baskets of peppers. tomatoes and whatnot can a dentist take in for his services every week? Silver coins though, that might peak his interest, might even bring out a few saved up vials of local anesthetic. He gave me two injection cause the first didn't cut it and was a full fifteen minutes literally tearing the 3 roots of that tooth out of my lower jaw. I was laughing while he did it oddly enough. But without that anesthetic I wouldn't have been. I doubt he could have held me down.