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[–]Sebine 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Any idiot can fake a tweet...

I'm going to need a lot more than this.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly.

[–]hennaojichan 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Good find Tom.

[–]Tom_Bombadil[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

;-)

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Where was it screenshoted from. Pretty easy to fake this.

[–]Tarrock 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is there an archive?

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Source is Jim Fetzer a known shill and cognitive infiltrator/disinformationalist.

[–]Tom_Bombadil[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You keep saying this. Maybe he is. I'm still looking for

He confronts almost all of the legit conspiracies. Particularly the taboo ones.

People hate his 9/11 nukes theory, but I'm a nuke sceptic.

Every nuke video can easily be picked apart as an edited fake. Easily.

Also, each nuke supposedly costs millions to make, do they should have video is most, but there are only a handful of "videos" available.

He's certainly a nuke shill.

IDK.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yes, he was part and parcel of Dr. Stephen Jones who has a long history of dubious claims and suspicious activity. From the start, the thermite debate was a limited hangout used to gatekeep the use of C4 and Detcord. They best way to control your oposition
is to lead it at the start, even if you provide your audience with all the truth needed to curtail their opposition of which you control. Remember, nani-Thermite was likely used in the cutting of exterior columns but still, the saying goes, as Cass Sunstein envisioned, "We must provide truth in a limited way over a period of time."

There are plenty of articles detailing Fetzer and his connections. The Nuke theory is overt disinformation and was often pushed by former Soviet agents.

It is notable that Jones’ position in the truth movement was buttressed in large part when his original partner, cofounder with him of Scholars for 9/11 Truth James Fetzer, began to promote the work of Judy Wood, provoking a split whereby the Scholars group was divided into two, with most supporters naturally siding with Jones over Fetzer.”

Such manufactured false choice dilemmas are quite common and involve the promotion of a bad choice, in this case Jones, by way of an even worse choice (Fetzer). It could be argued that the same tactic is being employed in the case of 9/11 guilt with the false choice being between the criminal Bush cabal (bad choice) and an independent al Qaeda movement (worse choice), or for that matter as alluded to earlier, Palestinians (worst choice.)”

[–]Tom_Bombadil[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Whomever it was you just cited overlooked the actual best choice, which is the neocon zionist and the Israeli Zionists.

This is well understood, as they had the most to gain.

Where did that quote come from?

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's the full quote and that's what really, at least I believe, happened on 9/11. The excerpt makes it looks like I'm blaming Bush, like the "Bush did 9/11 meme," which is a red-herring. The ZioCons wanted you to blame Bush for everything including the LIHOP, or the Saudis or the worst choise the Palestinians.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The quite came from moderator at wtcdemolition.com ; a site that exposes the Loose Changer Zionists and all the Cognitive infiltrators. I have emailed him many times and this quote whoch I posted in full a few weeks ago illustrates that Israel dual-citizen Zionists orchestrated 9/11.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Part 1

Bush wasn't really a Zionist. At least his father wasn't. George H. Walker Bush was the first president to CALL for a one state solution and try to give Palestinians full political rights. He even withheld billions of aid to Israel and for that reason had a Mossad hit on him. Just duckduckgo it or read the book "The High Priests of War" by Michael Collins Piper. Mossad wished to assassinate him.

As for George Bush, his entire family was an oil oligarchy. They had far different aspirations than the Likud. Ask youself this? What really happened on 9/11? Where was Bush? He was at a school reading to children. When he got the news by secret service did he look like he knew something? Not really. Instead his face showed complete confusion as if he finally realized why he became president. As if he was duped.

His father, yes, a war-criminal told reporters that the Neocons destroyed his sons presidency. But it's obvious his son did a lot of the destroying too.

As Guyenot noted in his ” From Yahweh to Zion” book , the “Seven Nations to destroy” theme for nine eleven comes from the OT. Wesley Clark mentioned it. He has a Jewish father that comes from a long line of Rabbis.

Six were already taken out, Iran is the last one not yet taken out. Thus, the endless calls from our Zion Age of Faith MSM to finish the job. There are 613 mitzvahs ( commandments) for religious Jews. The 187th one is the Seven Nations to destroy.

The 187th mitzvah is that we are commanded to kill and destroy the seven nations [of Canaan]1 because they are the prime worshippers and original source of idolatry.

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/961561/jewish/Positive-Commandment-187.htm

And we understand it that there have been many Zionists in Israel who celebrate Purim. There's even a photograph of children dressed up as the twin towers with planes stuck in them.

Clark was asked the same question about the neocons and the 7 country war years later and he denied ever mentioning it and basically ran away from the question. Something tells me that Clark might have been working for the Bush side, still corrupt but was neutral when it came to the neocons only until he got a cushy job.

The admin for wtcdemolition.com, in an amazon review details this better than anyone else. If you can observe that the US government wasn’t and isn’t a one track monolith things make much more sense:

"There appears to be an attempt to deflect suspicion from the faction of Israeli and American Zionists who most likely planned and executed 9/11 onto the Anglo-American/Arab power bloc the former see as their main competition for influence and control over the U.S. Most powerfully symbolized by the close relationship between the Bush family and the oil-rich monarchies, this power bloc, however undemocratic and corrupt itself, has long been a thorn in the side of Israel’s ambitions for regional hegemony, and as such has also for years been a favorite bogeyman of the Zionist dominated liberal end of the media and academic spectrum. (Read John MacDonald’s Book ‘United States of Israel,’ James Petras’s book ‘The Power of Israel in the Untied States,’ which illustrates that the Iraq War that was waged was not in the interests of oil.)”

"That the criticisms leveled against them have long been valid, as this group has its own hegemonic ambitions (that manifested itself, for example, in numerous subversions of popular will around the world when those movements threatened their position), is no reason to assume that because many of its members were in a position to assist in the execution of 9/11 that they actually did so, however tempting it may be.”

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Part 2 /u/Tom_Bombadil

"It should be noted that before 9/11 and after assuming the presidency (apparently illegaly), the Bush administration became the first American administration to openly call for the formation of a Palestinian state. While many Zionists (like Noam Chomsky) advocate this solution, the Israeli political elite, led by Likud, the ideological progeny of the Irgun (the terrorist movement that called for a “Greater Israel” encompassing Jordan, Syria, and the Sinai peninsula in addition to Palestine) have no intention of allowing a Palestinian state into being. Tellingly, upon their arrest, the five so-called “Dancing Israelis” said that “your problem is our problem…the Palestinians are the problem.” Also, the first claim of responsibility for the attacks was made by the Democratic Front for the Liberation Palestine, and we all remember the American media showing us dubious video of “Palestinians celebrating the attacks”. It appears that the original plan, in other words, may have been to blame Palestinian terrorists!”

"As we know, it did not happen this way, and the Bush administration had to make a quick decision–either” a) go along, and doom the Palestinian people,

b) expose the real perpetrators and for all intents and purposes spell the end of Israel as anything but a rogue state living on nuclear blackmail a la North Korea or

c) sacrifice an intelligence asset in Osama bin Laden, someone few people would care to defend.

"The Bush/Saudi power bloc saw in this third way an opportunity to pursue their own regional agenda, and for their trouble earned the title of “most likely suspects” from the 9/11 truth movement that has from the beginning–especially at the beginning–been heavily populated by Zionist apologists who have long tried to dismiss speculation about the thermite/explosive destruction of Zionist Larry Silverstein’s WTC as misguided or wrong, favoring the LIHOP (Let it Happen on Purpose) theory whereby–you guessed it, Bush and the Saudis either allowed or assisted the hijackers to carry out the hijackings and crashes which ‘naturally’ led to the towers’s ‘collapse’. (Many Israeli agents publish books promoting this narrative.)”

"With demolition now accepted by most serious researchers, the tactic has shifted to, among others, promoting the ridiculous ‘space beams dustified the steel’ work by Judy Wood to muddy the waters by fielding an army of positive reviewers for her book so the public can be told or led to believe that her work is indeed representative of the demolition argument.”

"In regards to Thermite, while it is possible that it was indeed such an advanced form of thermite used, in conjunction with regular thermite and conventional military-grade explosives to demolish the towers, the only hard evidence for it comes from analysis by a few individuals of dust samples solicited from the public by Dr. Steven Jones, in whose custody all samples were before being analyzed. Despite Dr. Jones’ early contributions to the truth movement, his credibility is made suspect by among other things his authorship of a pseudo-scientific paper purporting to find evidence of Jesus visiting pre-Columbian America (a tenet of his Mormon faith) in Mayan art as well as attempts of his to portray none other than fellow Mormon Glenn Beck as a (perhaps stealth) advocate of 9/11 truth. Jones and Ryan were cofounders of the Journal of 9/11 Studies, a vehicle by which they have attempted to use the outdated notion of academic peer review to control the discourse of the truth movement. It is notable that Jones’ position in the truth movement was buttressed in large part when his original partner, cofounder with him of Scholars for 9/11 Truth James Fetzer, began to promote the work of Judy Wood, provoking a split whereby the Scholars group was divided into two, with most supporters naturally siding with Jones over Fetzer.”

"Such manufactured false choice dilemmas are quite common and involve the promotion of a bad choice, in this case Jones, by way of an even worse choice (Fetzer). It could be argued that the same tactic is being employed in the case of 9/11 guilt with the false choice being between the criminal Bush cabal (bad choice) and an independent al Qaeda movement (worse choice), or for that matter as alluded to earlier, Palestinians (worst choice.)”

"The nano-thermite link may also be a red herring in that, as with the anthrax strains used in the post 9/11 mailings, the technology developed by the U.S. military could easily have fallen into the hands of other parties, and Israel is well known to be an avid collector of classified U.S. military technology as documented by the work of former Congressman Paul Findley as well as by the U.S. government itself. In the case of the anthrax mailings we find a familiar pattern–the accused, Bruce Ivins, suicided before a case could be presented in court, and some ‘skeptics’ intent on finding an Arab link when the clear suspect should instead be one Philip Zack–a former employee at Ft. Detrick who was guilty of harassing an Arab American colleague and who is known to have accessed the lab there after he was no longer authorized to. Just as Zack could easily have obtained the anthrax and transferred it to Israel, any number of disloyal employees of the U.S. military labs developing nano-thermite could have transferred that technology illicitly.”

"We must therefore take great pains to avoid falling into the trap of assuming that what little we can learn about the real agendas at play from traditional or ‘alternative’ media is the end of the story. While we may in this manner uncover and perhaps even neutralize some lower-level servants, witting or not, of these agendas, we may also miss (with tragic consequences) the forest for the trees. To suggest that it was a faction of fanatical right wing Zionists who perpetrated 9/11 is by no means to indict all Israelis or Jewish people around the world–far from it. It is instead to begin to make common cause with the likes of Israel Shahak, Gilad Atzmon, and any number of other liberal anti-Zionist Jews who are as aware of the historical crimes of their elites as we subjects of the American plutocracy are of our own. Those who accuse me of being motivated by anti-Jewish sentiment can only do so by ignoring the fact that so many of my guides and teachers in this quest for the truth behind war and suffering in the world have been exemplars of the very best (ethnic) Jewish traditions of anti-authoritarianism and personal liberation. We, like them, will know peace even as we struggle and fail to achieve it for humanity in our lifetimes.”

END QUOTE

[–]Tom_Bombadil[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

While many Zionists (like Noam Chomsky)

Zionist indeed. ;-)

Generally agree with this. Although, it doesn't really say much about Fetzer.

I'm not defending him, but I'm also not convinced.

I was late to the "red pill" party and learned about 9/11 on my own, so looking back on everything it's clear that it's wasn't so simple to see who was and wasn't legit.

I don't have and stake in that drama, and the resulting infighting.

With the exception of the 9/11 truth contraversy, Fetzer appears legit.

I'm far from certain. I could be wrong, but I trust my own intuitive judgment, and analytical skills.

If I'm wrong then you'll probably be the first to point out what I'm not seeing, and I'm fine with that, as well.

Either way, I'm confident that you're well intentioned, so we'll keep each other honest as the world again descends into chaos. ;-)

Either way, Fetzer will continue to uncover interesting and relevant info for the next few years until he passes (he's already 80 something).

[–]Tom_Bombadil[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

While many Zionists (like Noam Chomsky)

Zionist indeed. ;-)

Generally agree with this. Although, it doesn't really say much about Fetzer.

I'm not defending him, but I'm also not convinced.

I was late to the "red pill" party and learned about 9/11 on my own, so looking back on everything it's clear that it's wasn't so simple to see who was and wasn't legit.

I don't have and stake in that drama, and the resulting infighting.

With the exception of the 9/11 truth contraversy, Fetzer appears legit.

I'm far from certain. I could be wrong, but I trust my own intuitive judgment, and analytical skills.

If I'm wrong then you'll probably be the first to point out what I'm not seeing, and I'm fine with that, as well.

Either way, I'm confident that you're well intentioned, so we'll keep each other honest as the world again descends into chaos. ;-)

Either way, Fetzer will continue to uncover interesting and relevant info for the next few years until he passes (he's already 80 something).

[–]Tom_Bombadil[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Plenty of questions on Twitter about the deleted tweets...

https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=Obama%20foundation&src=recent_search_click&f=live