The black/white logical fallacy as propaganda tool

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[–]zyxzevn[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (35 children)

In my experience, the KGB does not do much. Can not do much either. It is the CIA he is talking about.

The CIA is actively manipulating the elections and politicians. They have the money, power and opportunities. They threatened Trump with "the CIA can back on you any sundays". And threats like that are pretty normal for the CIA. And lying to congress.

Everyone in politics is screened by the CIA/FBI and ONLY if you can be blackmailed are you allowed in. That is well known in political circuits, and there are quite some theories around it. Invisible Empire is a documentary that goes into some of these conspiracies with evidence. Also Sibel Egmonds has a lot of videos about her work for the FBI. Often the FBI would find a crime, which then was not reported, because the CIA did not want them to.

It is not strange at all that Epstein become a major figure in these circuits. (a "former" Mossad agent)

There are many interviews with Jesse Venture, who was outside the 2 parties, and became governor. When he was chosen, the CIA came to him directly. And they questioned him thoroughly. They told him, they wanted to stop any future candidates that were not of the 2 parties. He also had problems with the media. He was against the 2nd invasion of Iraq, because it was clearly based on lies. He had a contract for a show, but was forbidden to talk for 1 year.

This is all pretty normal business. But we can not see it, because the 2 party system keeps us busy fighting each other.

[–]AnarchySpeach 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

because the 2 party system keeps us busy fighting each other.

My only fear with implementing something to break it (like preferential voting/ranked voting) is who wins. Australia (despite being physically on fire) has also become china's bitch and removed free speech from it's citizens. Preferential voting didn't give people a 3rd party like they hoped. Instead it gave 1 side 2 parties. I'm summarizing quite a lot, so I apologize for missing important details.

While this has helped some people in Australia, those opposed to it are screwed.

I want a 3rd party in America. We just need to find a solution that won't result in one of the two main parties gaining unlimited power.

To the inevitable: "What are you talking about Australia is fine!" people, you go live there then. I don't want to.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Australia is still corrupt and the peopel have no freedom of speech and they banned guns because a retarded 60IQ patsy was blamed for hip firing dozens of people in the head. Trial for a retarded person? Noooo, of course not, there was no trial, lol. Australia is just as corrupt as any other country. It is up to the people, not the government to fix it, like here in America. Unfortunately nobody cares enough. They woudl rather scroll on their instagram feeds and look at memes or watch Football.

[–]AnarchySpeach 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

Sheep. That is what everybody said we needed. Make stuff with it. Sell it.

The dogs will protect the sheep.

Then the dog starved and nobody cared.

Then the sheep starved, and the farmer bought more sheep.

Then the farmer got hungry. He turned towards his sheep, only to see his flock eaten by wolves, and him next.

He went to grab his gun. He had sold it for sheep.

No crop was planted. No meat of value grown.

The wolves reclaimed all the farmer had lost and nobody cared.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Poetic... and chilling.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

Not really, I mean the problem is simple. The characters never did anything productive.

Farmer never cooked a sheep and that is why dogs starved and then the wolves got em. The farmer could have also eaten the wolves, all he had to do was trade a fuzzy one for a gun again and shoot the big bad. But didn't...

I would say laziness and indolence was heavily involved here. Yep, really speaks more to the mind-set that wrote such a poem and failed to give the characters any productive exchanges in life. So they all died except the predators.

Author must have been haunted, drunk and depressed!

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

That is one completely valid interpretation.

From my point of view it's about how being a wolf will reward you.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Mine too. And it is patently true: those of us who just want to "get along with our lives in peace and quiet" are the ones who get exploited and enslaved. Those raving maniacs who want a blood bath every single day, THRIVE.

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

There's no punishment for taking what you want.

There's punishment if you're caught, but all that does is teach the desperate how not too.

Our society actively encourages apathy. Donate 10 cents a day to a starving child in Africa. How many of us have muted the tv and gone to the bathroom? People are paid so little that the concept of a 10 cent tax is enough to get a politician death threats.

The world is cruel and unfair. Those who ignore that fact become food. That's just the way the world is.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Eh, nope. You speak of apathy yet you spout "that's just the way the world is." When IT IS NOT.

It's the way the world HAS BEEN CORRUPTED TO BECOME. Huge difference. It doesn't have to be this way, and accepting that is "just is" is apathy, and it is surrendering your personal will to that corruption. It remains true: for evil to triumph, good men need only do nothing. You can't do anything to improve the state of things if you accept the status quo. Are you a good man or are you part of the problem?

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

CIA works globally with Mossad and probably the KGB.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Of course they do. And by the way, there is an "us" and "them".

US is the citizens, most of which are sleepwalking through this nightmare called "life" and can't help anybody.

THEM is the so-called "elites" controlled by the )3vvs. These "powerful" people are all puppets. So it doesn't matter if you point to the CIA, Mossad or the KGB. They're all controlled ultimately by the same hands with ONE agenda. It doesn't matter if you point to Putin, Trump or Macron. They are all controlled ultimately by the same hands with ONE agenda.

Basically it's this: the few against the many. How could they win? By making the many not realize they're being destroyed by the few. That they are being played. Most of us in this corner of the 'Net have pulled back the blindfold from our eyes a little. But most of "us" are sleepwalking, and the red pill is "conspiracy theory" for kooks and tinfoil hat retards.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Did you mean the Jews?

Just wanted to make sure because there were some funky characters that appeared on screen there and appeared to be like such.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Often the FBI would find a crime, which then was not reported, because the CIA did not want them to.

That would explain 9/11 and FBI investigators who suddenly died when investigating the Port Authority.

[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

In my experience, the KGB does not do much. Can not do much either.

Putin IS KGB... and he can do a lot and he is doing quite a lot..

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

At the behest of... Come on...

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

the commies, run by the jesuit vatican and/or the rothschilds, depending on who you ask. but imo they are one and the same thing.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Agreed.

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

now that is a word i haven't heard in a long time :-)

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

May I ask useless, who is the central figure behind the Jesuits, scheming covertly? An actual Jesuit in a black robe, because I would love to research further on these people who seem, unlike the Zionists and Neocons to be out of the spotlight.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Other than the pope that is, who are the operators?

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

since the jesuits are crypto templars (baphometh worshiping sodomites and pedos) avenging de molay by destroying the church from within, it seems it is the templars and all the other gnostic orders (shriners and sufi orders (muslim gnostics), rosicrucians (christian gnostics), sabattean-frankists (crypto-jewish kabbalists)), connected with the european nobility and masonic bloodlines (eg the sinclai/st claire, today represented by trudeau, or the bush/prescott bloodline).

some say it is the [sabatteans](s/sabatteans), (which created the donmeh (they did the armenian genocide), the young turks and at last the frankists), because the old man of the mountain subdued both the templars and saladin in syria. they are a sect of nizari ismaili assassins (pushed out from alamut by the mongols), today represented by agha khan and baba mondi.

the bektashi and the templars cooperate, there is a video of a dame of malta - princess amore - visiting baba mondi in tirana, but i didn't research this further.

i think the gnostic orders always cooperated and inluenced each other, but with the creation of the bavarian illuminati, they shifted into a high gear. i think after adam weishaupt, giuseppe mazzini was the last known leader of the illuminati (he appointed pike, controlled the mafia etc), and since at the time they took over the papacy, it is now simply the vatican who is the main hub of power, with switzerland, the city of london, washington dc and others playing strong roles too.

the jesuit superior general is not only in control of the intel agencies, but more importantly of the education (fordham, georgetown), so they control the minds of the leaders too (clinton, trump, macron, mugabe, castro, stalin, kim jong-un and numerous others, too many to list). see how even the communist terrorist nelson mandela and desmond tutu were knights of malta which order the jesuits control since napoleon conquered malta.. for a recent and concrete example of jesuit control, see the so called 'condom dispute'.

other than the black and the white popes though, there might not be a central figure, tying all these gnostic groups, political radicals and their leaders together, just satan worship in its many many iterations expressed in powerful and power seeking groups such as the skull and bones and the shabtai society.

but, there are agendas to put such a figure into a position of supreme power such as the 'maitreya', the 'mahdi', the 'antichrist'. this is the very reason the capstone on the pyramid is still not placed at the apex.

here is an interesting 'christ bloodline' psyop (thanks u/vigte), suggesting the coming fake messiah might be related to president dubya: https://www.bit chute.com/video/B60eqwR9ZzFB/

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'll focus on other aspects of this post later on, because I can contend many points but Napolean in all of his memiors was agaisnt the Jesuits. And he destroyed the Templars. He demolished their Templar fortress.

He was worried that Bourbon royalists loyal to Louis would converge there regarding it as a kind of pilgrimage site. That was the last thing he was prepared to tolerate and so in went the wreckers.

Napolean was agaisnt the Templars and england and freed Jews from the prisons of Malta. He was one of the only ones who accpeted thte common Jew as citizens based on the assimilist principle rather than as a subject.

As for this:

i think the gnostic orders always cooperated and inluenced each other, but with the creation of the bavarian illuminati, they shifted into a high gear. i think after adam weishaupt, giuseppe mazzini was the last known leader of the illuminati (he appointed pike, controlled the mafia etc), and since at the time they took over the papacy, it is now simply the vatican who is the main hub of power, with switzerland, the city of london, washington dc and others playing strong roles too.

What about the Cathars and other alleged heretics who were considered gnostics in which the crusaders murdered all of them?

the jesuit superior general is not only in control of the intel agencies, but more importantly of the education (fordham, georgetown), so they control the minds of the leaders too (clinton, trump, macron, mugabe, castro, stalin, kim jong-un and numerous others, too many to list).

There's a lot of holes in this narrative and although I agree with some of it, many of it seems outlandish. So, if you could at leat show me some books to read, old ones, new ones, etc,. or lead me to sources that prove these statements.

...Papacy, it is now simply the vatican who is the main hub of power, with switzerland, the city of london, washington dc and others playing strong roles too.

I agree with this statement, but I believe Zionists and their various sects also play a significant role as well as rich families in China and Russia.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is all pretty normal business. But we can not see it, because the 2 party system keeps us busy fighting each other.

And so, then, folks, we must come together and support this two party system for if we do not, the Russians will take over the country. Back to the old ways, back to neo-liberalism!

[–]zyxzevn[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My solution for the US would be:
The Democrats are like 3 parties, the Republicans probably 2. Split them up. Add a few more parties, and you will have a diversity of opinions. People of different parties will have to talk with each other. And I think that is a way to grow more democratic.

But it also needs to weed out the open and hidden corruption. This will be difficult, but with more parties, there are less "friends" to protect those misusing their power. And corporations need to be kicked out.

The EU is also corrupt, but in a different way. The voted EU commission can only vote on laws that are brought by non-voted commissions. So it is effectively powerless on the long term.

In a country with many political parties, people still can be fixated on minor things. There are other forms of propaganda. And corrupt people can still have the power to set things their way. The newspapers and media are more responsible for creating narratives and fake opinions. Usually they are run by the state too. There are other measures needed to fix this.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You'd first have to get rid of congress and the government being incorporated.