Facebook bans conversations saying coronavirus came from a lab after consulting with WHO

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[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 4 fun -  (12 children)

coverups always prove guilt

[–]RelianceTrust 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

There is no virus

[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

There is no virus

This.

Edit: This Nurse is absolutely fantastic. Tells it how it is.

Shakespeare

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

coverups always prove guilt

In general, where there's smoke, there's fire.

However, sophisticated modern operations fabricate supporting evidence to support a false trail.

Colleges in numerous university's are even dedicated to research that perpetuates some of the more significant hoaxes.

Here's three photos. Two of the photos are taken from of cities which were firebombed.

One is a photo of Nagasaki.

Photo 1

Photo 2

Photo 3

Can you tell which one is Nagasaki?

I bet you can't tell me which one was nuked.

These hoaxsters are fully committed to the long game.

Here's "Shiva" Oppenheimer hoaxing it up on the Trinity tower ground zero aftermath.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Trinity_Test_-_Oppenheimer_and_Groves_at_Ground_Zero_001.jpg.

They forgot to add the nuke blast crater, scorched earth, and deadly radiation.
Amateurs.

Spoiler: None of them died from radiation poisoning.

Here's a classic video of a nuke being detonated near the bikini islands.

Nuclear blast at lagoon of Bikini Atoll, Micronesian Islands in the Pacific Ocean...HD Stock Footage

Look carefully at the INVINCIBLE CLOUDS, which are clearly unaffected by the megaton blast (or whatever).

Of course, I can't 100% prove nuclear weapons don't exist.
And I can't prove the Easter Bunny doesn't exist.

Plenty of smoke, and fire here.
Sans the nukes.

Also, all 3 of the photos were of Tokyo. Nagasaki was also firebombed.

Covid is fake AF. There is no novel virus.

"Long Covid" is probably radiation pneumonitis, which may explain why all discussion of 5G is censored.

Boosh! Boosh! Boosh! ;-)

[–]sorrymommy 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Covid is fake AF. There is no novel virus.

i have attended a twelve step meeting since the beginning of the scamdemic, fifty people approx attend, maybe maybe maybe 1% wears a mask, and i have not heard of anyone getting this covid bullshit.

most twelve step groups strictly do strictly enforce the mask rules, but this one particular group that i attend does not enforce it at all.

this covid thing has made it obvious how the majority of people believe any bullshit that is spewed out over CNN.

people are absolute puppets.

[–]madcow-5 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My parents just had it. First people I know to get it, after almost a year. It’s real. Massively overblown, but the literal virus is real.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Massively overblown, but the literal virus is real.

Well, if you isolated the virus and identified it, then you're the first to do so.

Top Lab Test Expert: COVID-19 Virus ‘Does NOT Exist’ (January 4, 2021)

“A virus isolate is a virus isolated from an infected host. The process is called “isolation,” which separates viruses from the hosts.”

It means that for microbiologists and virologists, taking a swab sample, which separates virus from the host, is considered as “virus isolation.”

This interpretation does not reflect the correct meaning and understanding of the subject of isolation. But, they imply and promote the true meaning of the process of isolation, i.e., to obtain something by extraction, purification, and identification, reflected by well-known pretty pictures of the DNA/RNA, proteins, and viruses such as a spherical body with spikes (aka coronavirus).

The virologists’ version of the definition is incorrect and causing the problem. Wherever one looks for the virus, one always finds a suffix with it, e.g., “virus isolate,” “virus culture,” “virus lysate,” etc., (which are soups, mixtures or gunks), never “virus” alone; however, it is presented and promoted as pure “virus.”

The Made-Up Definition Of “Virus-Isolation” Makes The Story Of The SARS-CoV-2 Virus, Its Infection, And Pandemic Very Clear, I.E., Nothing Is Real About Them, But All Are Fake. No One Has Seen The Virus, Found It, Or Isolated It As Claimed. It Is All Bogus.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

i have attended a twelve step meeting since the beginning of the scamdemic, fifty people approx attend, maybe maybe maybe 1% wears a mask, and i have not heard of anyone getting this covid bullshit.

Respect, for sticking with it through the hoax.

What's the general consensus of the group through this?

Do others see through this scam?

[–]sorrymommy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Do others see through this scam?

they are really dense.. a) they believe in the virus. b) they dont wear masks.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

a) they believe in the virus. b) they dont wear masks.

50/50 is still well above average.

[–]Lahontan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

If the nukes are fake, that would explain why the Japanese were basically unbothered by it and only surrendered the war once the soviets engaged their positions in northern china.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the Japanese were basically unbothered by it and only surrendered the war once the soviets engaged their positions in northern china.

Exactly.

The globe had already been carved up by Churchill, Roosevelt, and Stalin at the Yalta Conference.

Final plans for defeat of Germany, postwar Europe plans, set date for United Nations Conference, conditions for the Soviet Union's entry in war against Japan.

<Edit > The hoax was probably agreed to at the Potsdam Conference

  • Attended by Stalin, Truman, Attlee, Churchill.
  • We know Truman discussed the Trinity* test results with Stalin.
  • Historians marvel at Stalin's composure after hearing of this.
  • This also explains the planned cold war hoax.
  • Trinity (3)...

They (Japan) were the last to learn they were "nuked", and we're forced to accept this hoax as part of their unconditional surrender.

This is the only time that a hoax like this could be pulled off.
They were completely dominated, and the US propaganda machine swing into action.

The British and Soviets were already in on it.

Other genocidal WW2 hoaxes were likely also agreed discussed at Yalta.

The scope and magnitude of these hoaxes have grown over time.

Supposedly, today's nukes can blow up the entire world.

It's worth mentioning that numerous nukes have accidentally been launched, and dropped, etc.

An ongoing miracle prevents nukes from detonating. This same miracle also protects clouds.

If you're interested in evidence of other hoaxes.

https://www.big-lies.org/index.html

[–]jet199 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

The funny thing is China is now pushing the idea the virus can be spread on frozen food.

There were outbreaks all over the world in meat packing plants and when it was questioned whether the virus could survive and spread from frozen meat coming out of China the western media shut it down and said it was all down to socio-economic reasons.

So the media now has a choice, do they fight back this obviously propaganda push which means getting off their arses and doing their job or accept it and eat shit over the face they tried to say society (that's us) were at fault for all of those meat factory workers falling ill.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

The funny thing is China is now pushing

China is pushing a lot of things it seems!

[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

They're even swabbing robots?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Safety first!

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

In the end, that seems like the last place robots will expose people to COVID.

On the chance they're sexbots, they're going to have to seriously improve their product line if they want my business in their business models.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

China is pushing a lot of things it seems!

They're just checking a trans man after gender reassignment surgery.

BTW: If male/female gender doesn't exist, then why are these dudes undergoing surgery???

[–]slushpilot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Who eats the most frozen/processed food? My guess would be America. That scare statement definitely sounds targeted.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Most meat and fish travels frozen then is thawed out and sold as fresh. A lot of vegetables are transported the same way as well.

With chicken it's actually mandatory in some countries because freezing kills campylobacter.

[–]sorrymommy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i have a friend that works as a cook at a well known fast food burger joint.. he has jacked off onto the burgers and he has also put shit on the burgers.

he is fun to party with tho.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

hmmm..

[–]FediNetizen 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (14 children)

Not surprising. The virus has been investigated quite thoroughly at this point, and there are no real indications that it was manmade. If you want a deep dive into the merits of the "lab theory", I can recommend this excellent video by potholer

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (6 children)

Rly?

”According to Professor Luc Montagnier, winner of the Nobel Prize for Medicine in 2008 for “discovering” HIV as the cause of the AIDS epidemic together with Françoise Barré-Sinoussi, the SARS-CoV-2 is a virus that was manipulated and accidentally released from a laboratory in Wuhan, China, in the last quarter of 2019. According to Professor Montagnier, this laboratory, known for its work on coronaviruses, tried to use one of these viruses as a vector for HIV in the search for an AIDS vaccine.”

”With my colleague, bio-mathematician Jean-Claude Perez, we carefully analyzed the description of the genome of this RNA virus,” explains Luc Montagnier, interviewed by Dr Jean-François Lemoine for the daily podcast at Pourquoi Docteur, adding that others have already explored this avenue: Indian researchers have already tried to publish the results of the analyses that showed that this coronavirus genome contained sequences of another virus, … the HIV virus (AIDS virus), but they were forced to withdraw their findings as the pressure from the mainstream was too great.”

” In a challenging question Dr Jean-François Lemoine inferred that the coronavirus under investigation may have come from a patient who is otherwise infected with HIV. No, “says Luc Montagnier,” in order to insert an HIV sequence into this genome, molecular tools are needed, and that can only be done in a laboratory.”

https://www.gilmorehealth.com/chinese-coronavirus-is-a-man-made-virus-according-to-luc-montagnier-the-man-who-discovered-hiv/

Professor Luc Montagnier won the 2008 Nobel Prize for his discovery relating to HIV, this is his field. Should I trust you , a YouTuber or him and his partner, as well as a legion of other scientists and researchers who are being censored?

[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

Trust the plan.

Lemme know when they finally share the plan.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

Trust the plan

I’ll let you know how it goes!

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

LOL!

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

”According to Professor Luc Montagnier, winner of the Nobel Prize for Medicine in 2008 for “discovering” HIV as the cause of the AIDS epidemic together with Françoise Barré-Sinoussi, the SARS-CoV-2 is a virus that was manipulated and accidentally released from a laboratory in Wuhan, China, in the last quarter of 2019.

I challenge anyone to produce a peer reviewed paper that conclusively shows how HIV causes AIDS.

You won't find one, because HIV doesn't cause AIDS.

It's Faucci's original fraud.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not many people remember this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s69HgP0wiHM

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, really. The Indian researchers were forced to withdraw their study because critics pointed out the "similarities" equally applied to many other bacteria and viruses. Saying that having some common genetic code means that one was derived from the other is ridiculous. It would be like accusing JK Rowling of plagiarizing JRR Tolkien's Lord of the Ring series because her Harry Potter novels also featured "magic", and "dragons", and "goblins" just like Tolkien's novels do, when in reality those archetypes appear in just about every fantasy novel.

And it's the same story with Dr. Montagnier. His claim doesn't have a solid scientific foundation; it's just his conjecture.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Excellent report. I've subscribed.

One of the problems with the spread of misinformation and disinformation is that it can be so difficult to locate their origins, and if spread with numerous professional influencers on social media &c, they can also be criticized as completely wrong, depending on responses. Thus one way to distract people from the potential association of virology CDC lab research and a virus outbreak at a filthy food market would be to create social media discussions around easily refutable reports about the potential links between the lab and market. When the majority sees this as false and thus censors and disagrees with it, the lab theory is thereby not trusted by the majority. If not this theory for manipulating social media opinion, one could simply argue that the Government of China has effectively hidden the evidence for the start of the virus, and thus we will not get the information, and thus cannot claim that there is a connection between the lab and market. My main point is this: because it is not entirely implausible that the source of the virus included lab experiments, we do not have evidence that there is no connection between this virus and a CDC lab in Wuhan. Thus, rather than censor comments about labs, there should be studies like potholer54's and news media bias sites that trace and assess the spread of information. Unfounded claims can therefore be mentioned, as long as there is a note that there is no proof, but that there may be some merit in the claim. Perhaps tag any post about a lab with a note like, 'unproven', and let the conversation continue. I argued about this over a year ago with others in social media, and at that time located Wuhan CDC reports that are not mentioned in potholer54's study. The Whuhan CDC reports date back to 2011 and earlier, and assess SARS virus research that is ongoing, and is several decades old. Is it possible that a lab assistant could get infected during this process? It's not implausible. And as noted by a colleague in China: the government's first response to all news is how to manipulate it.

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Knowing that there was SARS research going on at one of these facilities gives me pause. However, I feel like if there was any compelling evidence that the initial infection actually originated from this lab, then the intelligence community would know about it. And since Trump was already in the middle of a trade war, and was getting hammered on the campaign trail over his administration's COVID-19 response, either Trump or someone on his team would have asked for a briefing on where precisely in China the virus came from.

And if there were any evidence that COVID-19 was created in a Chinese lab, whether as a bioweapon or as part of a well-intentioned research project, Trump would have weaponized this information and made sure the public knew about it.

[–]slushpilot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Maybe I'm reading between the lines too much, but:

  • He was pretty sure to blame "Chi-na" directly, making sure to call it the "Wuhan flu" / "China virus" at every possible turn
  • He was distrustful of the WHO's chumminess and deference to Chinese officials, to the point of withdrawing the US from that organization

It's not certain that US intelligence would know this kind of detail about Chinese internal affairs and what's being studied in one lab. Especially if China had time to cover some tracks & come up with a good story (look! pangolins!). Meanwhile political distrust in the US meant that departments weren't necessarily coordinated enough to see it...

Among things that also give me pause is the cocksure Dazsak-penned letter in The Lancet that was published in February 2020—well before anyone outside of the officials had investigated anything... before even the WHO. How could he dismiss with such certainty that a lab leak was a "conspiracy theory"?

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The evidence has always pointed to Wuhan being ground zero, so calling it those names doesn't indicate he knows something we don't. And to your 2nd point, it is true that the WHO is at least somewhat in the pocket of the CCP.

It is true, it's not certain that intel agencies would know what's going on inside the lab. But I think it's probable that they would. Intel agencies are very well aware of the threat of biological warfare, and there are a number of efforts to actively monitor developments, especially in a rising power like China.

With regards to "political distrust leading to a lack of coordination", that is very much a pre-9/11 thing. I'm speaking as a former military member that had an SCI clearance and plenty of first-hand experience with what goes on inside the system. When we were getting briefed into the various programs, the lessons learned from 9/11 were widely cited to explain why the intelligence sharing programs are set up the way they are. There is a lot of cooperation between agencies nowadays.

With regards to the letter, it looks to me like a political puff piece.

How could he dismiss with such certainty that a lab leak was a "conspiracy theory"?

I think at that point, they probably couldn't. But you can find plenty of pro-CCP propaganda like this on the internet. At any rate, my belief that it probably wasn't manmade is based on what the people that I think aren't comprimised by CCP interests are telling me, not by what people like this are telling me.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I love reading two shills talking. It is really cute.

[–]slushpilot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Haha, thanks for your insight there. Where's my George Soros money?

[–]slushpilot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are plenty of real indications.

Using processes like serial passaging to accelerate natural mutation cycles is a well-documented technique in gain-of-function research. This is fundamentally using a natural process, and does not mean such a virus ends up being obviously "man-made" even though it was raised through many generations in a lab.

Gain-of-function research was performed at the Wuhan institute. Similar bat coronaviruses were a specialty of one of the researchers there. Some of the sequencing analysis and inability to find an ancestor strain in a natural reservoir sure point to something.

The closest genetic sequence is a match from a bat collected in 2013, a thousand kilometres away, which happened to be studied at the virology institute. And yet somehow, nobody got sick in the towns near the cave, or anywhere else, until this virus showed up in the middle of a large urban centre with a virology lab.

If a lion jumped into your backyard and ate your dog, you would probably wonder how it got there, or who brought it into your city. But if you knew that the circus was in town this week, you could make some reasonable assumptions. So let's say you threatened to sue the circus for their dangerous negligence and the loss of your dog—but they denied that it was their lion, never saw it before. Would you just believe them?

I remember watching potholer's video last year. He makes some good points, and I'm sure that not everything laowhy86 says is correct either. There's admittedly a lot of noise and baseless conspiracy theorizing, but on the whole I'm still skeptical of the recent official "conclusion" which actually didn't explain anything at all, or showed any evidence as far as I can tell.

There exist more viable reasons to believe the virus escaped from the lab than the other "wet market" theory that was also eliminated. Why do you blindly accept the statement that the lab leak hypothesis was ruled out? What evidence—even circumstantial—is that based on, when other evidence that hasn't yet been ruled out still exists?

[–]RightousBob 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Guess what? Covid was created in a lab. Our government funded the "gain of function" study. Facebook needs to be shunned and left to wither and rot. Fuck Zuck and everyone that still uses his shitty and tyrannical site.

[–]RelianceTrust 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

"Facebook bans CONVERSATIONS... "

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

But WHO's on first!?!?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Holy moly - a post and three initial comments I 100% agree with. I need a drink....

[–]Poofter 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

If you think it’s one big man made virus, you’re a fucking idiot

[–]BulbusBeanQueen 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

We all know someone sexed up a bat and a pangoblin