That’s why there can be no losing for the West in Ukraine. To the Mackinderists at the top of the power structures in London, Washington D.C. and Brussels, losing Ukraine means losing the entire world, because they have this very-outdated view of world geography.

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[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Putin only entered office in 2012, so your association of Hitler's actions and intentions, in correlation with projections of you think Putin may personally want, doesn't make much logical or historical sense.

Even though Russia is not the Soviet Union, you might be interested in the slight-irony of your position, considering the Soviets occupied Ukraine, then Nazis overtook it (or parts of it), which some called liberating it, but then the Soviets later took it back once again. When the Soviet Union collapsed, Ukraine declared independence. Ukraine was, even more so than now, largely made of a Soviet speaking and a Soviet heritage population. Many Soviet-Ukrainians left to Russia to help rebuild from the collapsed Soviet Union and constitute an integral part of Russia. Of course, today, the number of Russian speaking Ukrainian and with Russian heritage, is still significant.

Which lead's to 10 year long war...

Later, Moscow vowed to protect the Russian-speaking people of Crimea when Ukraine chose Russia's over the US/UK financial deal in 2014 and suddenly Ukraine was a war zone of civilian protesters, mercenaries, and suspiciously lots of US/EU involvement. Regardless of what anyone thinks, it seems Moscow determined the Ukrainian revolution was a US/EU ruse and a coup with a cover story, in violations of previous US, UK, and Russia treaties with Ukraine to disarm their nuclear weapons (Soviet leftovers from after the World Wars), this is when they annexed Crimea.

Half of Ukraine also didn't seem to support the new leadership or circumstances of it unfolded, creating a deep divide int he people and sparking a 10 year long war of US/EU-supporting East Ukrainians and Russia-supporting East Ukrainians bombing and warring with each other. The war killed many thousands of Ukrainians, destroyed much of East Ukraine, littered their country with land mines, and caused several near continent-wide environmental disasters due to bombing areas with mines, which have water pumps that must be maintained, including one with nuclear waste sealed in it.

With Ukraine, the US, and EU openly and publicly talking of supporting Western Ukraine's intentions to make an offensive slaughter of Eastern Ukraine for the last 5 or 6 years, Russia went to Geneva with concerns of a coming genocide of the Russian-speaking Ukrainians and again vowed to protect them.

Geneva laughed at them and our media ran stories ridiculing Putin's worry of genocide. Not surprisingly, Russia began the current military action in response, presumably taking matters into their own hands.

[–]Dune1032 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Hitler claimed that the people in the Sudetenland wanted to be part of Germany. France and Britain let Hitler have the Sudetenland thinking this would appease Hitler. Instead, Hitler took over all of Czechoslovakia. This is similar to Putin claiming that the people of East Ukraine want to be part of Russia.

If half of Ukrainians don't like the government, they would not be fighting so ferociously. The UN has condemned Russia for invading Ukraine. If Russia has a grievance against Ukraine, it should take it before the UN.

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Russia took their concern for the Russian speaking Ukrainian people before Geneva, in the proper manor the UN would have wanted, following long standing treaties. Russia literally took the submissive approach and cooperated with the US/EU as if a member......they were laughed at and ridiculed for their concerns of genocide in their neighboring country, many against Russian blood relations.

Our US and EU leaders had been publicly boasting about preparing West Ukraine for an offensive to finally finish off East Ukrainians any year now, for the last five years. Evil colonist countries never change, especially with such high levels of corruption in charge.