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[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Wow nice, you managed to repeat and ignore your mistakes yet again

Submitting documents does not prove that you are an asylum seeker

Are you really telling us that you think: That someone who submits docs to seek asylum and is housed by the Dutch government, has not provably sought asylum? Are you that much of a moron? How can someone who has sought asylum not prove that they're an asylum seeker?

In either case, these people expect to be accommodated but do not require a house or five star cruise ship. They would be suited to be placed in a processing centre, where basic food and shelter needs are met and basic first aid.

Wow genius, I can't believe you figured this out and the Dutch government didn't. There they are, providing rooms on a cruise liner, while you have discovered that a simple processing centre would be sufficient! Incredible! There was no need at all for the cruise liner, they should have just used a processing centre! Why oh why did the Dutch government think of a processing centre on that day they booked the cruise liner?! God, you're so smart, you should email queen Beatrix with your genius idea, I bet they'll kick themselves when they find out, that a processing centre would have been enough!!

What? Wait what's that? Oh, there was no available processing centre?

In that case I ask you for the fourth time: would Dutch citizens be better served if the asylum seekers were made homeless and forced to live on the streets? Is that a preferable solution of no processing centre is available? Dipstick

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Speaking to me in this manner will not grant you respect. Go fuck yourself.

You know full well that my point is that people are not to be considered as legitimately requiring asylum until they are granted asylum, and that by inviting them to stay in luxury is an attraction for those who would seek to take advantage of the opportunity.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Oh no, now I won't get to hear any more of your amazing ideas like

  1. When you pretended that "These are understood to be illegal immigrants who have no intrinsic right" even though the evidence said otherwise

  2. When you pretended that people who have sought asylum are not provably asylum seekers

  3. When you ignored the question of - what other solution do you propose, other than homelessness

  4. When you discovered the novel fact that a processing centre would be sufficient. Just if only we could find one...

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

If you create a problem such as manufacturing mass immigration open to abuse, you prepare for such. Otherwise, close the border. No country has any obligation to accommodate anyone other than their citizens, regardless of them applying for asylum. Furthermore, they have traveled through several safe countries to reach one that would offer them greater benefits. Fuck those people.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Furthermore, they have traveled through several safe countries

How did you determine that? Did you forget that Holland has one of the world's busiest shipping terminal at Antwerp and one of the world's busiest airports? Isn't this just pulled entirely out of your ass? And if it's true - have you discovered something new?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/09/04/world/europe/europe-refugee-distribution.html

No you haven't, the EU already distribute migrants to countries in the union.

So while the Dutch government assess their asylum claim and asses the route they took to Netherlands and assess which safe country they can go to: I ask you for the sixth time: should they be left on the street? Would that be a good outcome for Dutch citizens? You're a moron who keeps digging deeper and deeper. Can't wait to see what nonsense you come up with next instead of just admitting: this story is a nothingburger and you were an idiot to use it to confirm your bias towards xenophobia

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

So now you support mass immigrants using private property to be housed rent free? It wasn't long ago you were arguing the opposite where migrants in the US were to be housed in military accommodation instead of private vacant homes. Or do you now agree with Chipit on this subject? It seems to me that you are intentionally provocative to ensure a spicy debate my friend 🙏

How do you differentiate between protection of one's nation and xenophobia when it comes to being bombarded with a seemingly unlimited supply of military age men from islamostan demanding to be pampered? Governments are doing this to virtue signal to the left while simultaneously trying to avoid more islamostanians blowing themselves up in Christmas markets.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The Martha's Vineyard thing was - chipit believed they should be forcibly placed in people's existing homes by the government. This Dutch thing is - I'm saying they should be housed and not left homeless. Surely you're not so bad faith as to pretend there's no difference between someone not being homeless, and them living out your spare room?

How do you differentiate between protection of one's nation and xenophobia when it comes to being bombarded

How do YOU differentiate between unicorns and dragons when it comes to the leprochaun economy?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Those successfully granted asylum should only have the same right to housing as the citizens. Therefore, they should have no more right to accomodation than the existing homeless citizens themselves. A country must take care of it's own first, before asylum seekers who could be anyone from anywhere. You cannot use people's private property to house homeless and "just build more houses" is not a valid answer given the infinite queue of illegals waiting to scrounge off the system. When surveyed, around one in 4 young Africans want to move to Europe. It is unsustainable.

Asylum applicants have no rights at all to be housed, less so in the luxury of a five star vessel. In the UK, asylum seekers were granted use of an army barracks, they set it on fire demanding hotels. Fuck those people.

If I turn up at your door, would you allow me to shit on your doorstep, raid your fridge, your bank account and then ask that you thank me for the pleasure?

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Therefore, they should have no more right to accomodation than the existing homeless citizens themselves.

Ok great finally someone will answer me. Screw the boat - these refugees should have been left living on the streets of Netherlands. And that's the outcome which you think would have been preferable. While the big empty ship is stuck at harbor. Ok.

If I turn up at your door, would you allow me to shit on your doorstep, raid your fridge, your bank account and then ask that you thank me for the pleasure?

Sounds like you have that image in your head. How did that get there I wonder.

Ok so if the news which you seek out to consume, was full of stories about how grateful they are, how meek and humbled they've become since arriving to UK, how well they're adapting to the bus timetable and corner shops and the argos catalog...would you still be writing about "shitting on my doorstep"?

Sounds like you're seeking out some xenophobic media to consume

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ok great finally someone will answer me. Screw the boat - these refugees should have been left living on the streets of Netherlands. And that's the outcome which you think would have been preferable. While the big empty ship is stuck at harbor. Ok.

Yes. And?