Directed Energy Weapons

submitted by FThumbStay thirsty, my friends from self.WayOfTheBern

https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/all-the-materials-that-didnt-burn

"But you can't prove anything!"

Run the video. Some of the images in the video have no other explanation outside of a microwave/DEW. One of my favorites is at the 35:00 mark. Wooden fence posts, burned from the nails.

Another extreme oddity starts at 43:40. It's a tire that burned to disintegration. Except for another that appears untouched. Polyester cord tires didn't burn. Steel belted tires next to them, ashes. How would a fire be able to discriminate between steel and poly belted tires?

The video at that link, with the evidence it presents, shows just how captured our national media has become that none of this is seeing any exposure outside of a handful of indy media outlets.

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    [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (30 children)

    For every piece of "evidence" I've seen so far, I've seen identical things in my own house

    Steel belted tires reduced to ash next to poly-corded tires intact? Fence posts that burned from the nails out? Jeeps with melted hoods? Entirely incinerated homes next to trees with intact needles and small branches?

    Watch the video and get back to me if any of those things are normal in a fire.

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      [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

      I had 50 feet of fence with burns around the staples in the posts when a power line fell on them during a thunderstorm.

      I thought more about this as it relates to the fence burning from the nails inside. Plausable, except the power in Lahana had been cut.

      [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

      I thought more about this as it relates to the fence burning from the nails inside. Plausable...

      It would also depend upon where the nails were. Occasionally there would be a nail not attached to the metal part of the fence, to hang something on. Did those nails (not attached to anything) also burn the posts? If the effect was electrical from the metal fence, those would not have burned.

      If there were such a thing as a Carrington Gun, and if it were to have been used, either all the nails would have burned the posts, or just the nails at right angles to the direction of the alleged beam. Is there evidence of either of those things?

      ...except the power in Lahana had been cut.

      Couldn't that part have happened before power was cut?

      (Yes, I'm examining from both sides at once)

      [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

      It was a wood fence, with the runners attached by four nails where it crossed the post. It clearly burned only where the cross-runners were nailed on. I the image i the video you can still see the nails where the post if charred.

      Couldn't that part have happened before power was cut?

      Yes it could.

      [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

      It clearly burned only where the cross-runners were nailed on.

      Metal conducts heat better than air. And melts at a much higher point than the flash point of wood.
      The metal runners could have heated up the wood at point of contact, if the runners were still attached at the time.

      Unconnected nails in wood burning the wood (without the rest of the wood burning) would need a different cause.

      [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

      The metal runners could have heated up the wood at point of contact,

      It didn't look like metal runners in the image. Maybe I missed them?

      [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

      It clearly burned only where the cross-runners were nailed on.

      It didn't look like metal runners in the image.

      What were the cross runners made of? Also, were the nail heads still there?

      [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      There's a wood cross-runner on the ground, and the nail heads were still protruding from the char where the wood runner was attached to the post.

      [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      I had 50 feet of fence with burns around the staples in the posts when a power line fell on them during a thunderstorm.

      "Burns around the staples" sounds like something more electrical than fire related....

      I haven't looked at the "fence posts that burned from the nails out" footage, but that one, if as described, would seem to be difficult to achieve by fire alone. Maybe it's not quite as described, but if it is....

      [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      "Burns around the staples" sounds like something more electrical than fire related....

      Agreed. But the power had been cut to the area.

      [–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Remids me of the X-Ray laser from Mote in God's Eye.

      [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Did you take the time to watch the video?

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        [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Nope, it was definitely a DEW. Definitely. Had to be. Probably from space, because the technology exists; so of course we'd certainly use it on ourselves.

        No need to be a dick.

        We have the technology, and have since the 80's. And we have a very long history of not giving a fuck about how many innocent civilians are killed in the name of acquiring land and power, up to and including the entire covid mess. Are you really unaware of any of this? Is it that unthinkable that those who control our leaders would do something like this, considering their history of doing anything necessary to gain wealth and control without regard for lives and well-being?

        [–]sdl5 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

        Yes Thumb.

        You know me. Super sensible but no trust in govt or narratives.

        I am ALSO a wildfire survivor, and witnessed up close the exact "bizarre" results of a wind driven plus powerlines wildfire sweeping down a mountainside into town.

        I watched it form, burn, change directions when the wind did, roars right on past some spots and turn to melted puddles and ashes others.

        Wind velocity at location, other structures, landscaping moisture or retaining walls vs none, subtle geographic or flora details that protected or nuked buffers, animals surviving "impossible" conditions, items that looked entirely unscathed surrounded by scorched melted remains and ash... that literally dissolved once touched.

        Tires are tricky in that different types of materials used can ignite or burn or NOT BURN very dramatically differently.

        The list of things syllables and myself ALONE have witnessed and stayed around to check and verify ourselves is huge- why would you ignore both of us, that you KNOW are sane stable and not easily fooled longterm WotB members? In favor of videos that are getting progressively more bizarre and frankly paranoid?

        More tyan enough ugly corrupt stupid to go around in Maui, no need to make shit up- or poison the well with crazy claims. That just gives the LEGIT targets and horrible actions or lack thereof cover tbh.

        [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

        Did you watch the video? It's no longer conjecture if our gov has DEWs. And it's long past conjecture if our gov would ever sacrifice its own citizens for the gains of the powerful.

        There's too many odd loose threads, up to and including the fact that the Chief of Police was the same guy who oversaw the Vegas mass shooting.

        [–]sdl5 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        Guy.

        It's me.

        OF COURSE I watched the video.

        And have already done the back research and deep dive on claims, and watched other actual on site videos and drones etc etc etc.

        Maui is an island County, and in geography is essentially TWO islands with an isthmus connecting them.

        Lahaina and Kaanapali zone is quite separate from the rest, and going further north or even east up the mountain from there is sparsely to no population locals and wild areas. I have actually been there, know the terrain and populations and problems. Extended fam DIED in Lahaina, in their car trying to evac dude.

        The LE boss would have been living on the other half where the bulk of the population is. And may or may not be a factor in the RESPONSES. Ditto for FD boss, Water Dept and school District local govt authorities.

        THOSE choices and responses in toto are the scandal needing loudspeakers in media and online.

        That HI or mil Fed response was so sparse is a MAJOR scandal as well- the CG were the only responders and saved lives from the water off Lahaina as the fires still raged in town and on the marina.

        This other shit is deliberately poisoning the well

        Remember Mpls 20? And how many wild ass claims were made after, but you were THERE and knew bullshit was being spread? That.

        [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        This other shit is deliberately poisoning the well

        So the local authorities did everything they could to allow as many deaths as possible, but they wouldn't go that far?

        I no longer believe the gov is beyond any of this. It's war being played by a new set of rules, and our ability to believe they would do this still has a long way to catch up.

        How many decades has it taken to even start to believe our bureaucratic establishment would assassinate our own president? 9-11 is in hindsight an obvious inside job. TPTB never cared how many innocent lives would be lost in any of their wars, be it our own citizens or those of other countries. They didn't care how many lives ended or destroyed with the covid play. But it's unthinkable that they would use technology we know they have to further their land and power grab ambitions, and to suggest as much is poisoning a well they long ago poisoned? As if our ignoring this aspect of the big picture will move us any closer to the truth behind what's happening?

        And how many wild ass claims were made after, but you were THERE and knew bullshit was being spread?

        I was there, and it was less about wild ass claims being made as it was what wasn't being reported. Bullshit by omission. The riots weren't spontaneous or organic. It was another early version of J6, where professional instigators lit the proverbial match and then fanned the flames for the cameras.

        [–]sdl5 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Incompetence is RAMPANT in govt there. Like think illiterate 4th world levels.

        They are also entirely INCAPABLE of keeping their mouths shut about anything, no matter how damaging. As you could witness on camera in the early govt media updates- the Las Vegas cop all but smacked his forehead on camera in reaction as he stood behind the speakers.

        The meeting on cities and planning upcoming on Maui and past plans made w govt leaders being blurted out and then blasted on media is classic.

        The overt refusal to turn off power or even contact the power company, the denial of requests to open access to the water towers, the redirect of FD crews away from watching the remnants of the morning fire for flare up... All defended live and in person repeatedly on camera to nedia- by the authorities in charge themselves.

        They are INCOMPETENT IDIOTS.

        This was bound to happen, fallow dead pineapple fields, siphoned off upland watertables to East Maui and the lower coast, minimal FD budgets and low staffing or training, deliberate hiring of blind order followers as LE and FD staff who couldn't even recognize their OWN lives were at risk by doing so...

        All compounded by an attitude in locals that if it were a REAL emergency then the govt would announce it and be there telling them exactly what to do.

        [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Sounds like a perfect set-up to ultimately destroy the land they've been coveting for a very long time.

        Incompetence always seems to only harm those at the bottom of the food chain.

        [–]sdl5 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Now THIS is true.

        That the situation could be anticipated by actual smart and covetous parties is beyond doubt.

        That some level of influence on resources given or response restrictions made were involved is completely viable.

        That the sacred and historic sites legally limited their reach for seizing land is facts.

        That they hoped for conditions that could be exploited, conditions likely at least once every 5 years if not more frequently depending on weather cycle patterns- definitely a reasonable suspicion to hold.

        But consider that virtually EVERY small biz in old town are the middle to upper middle and even elite levels of Maui HI, as were the bulk of the marina boats...

        This took out far more than just the majority of the locals housing and schools built on the lower reclaimed fields.

        Homes with numerous abandoned cars on all the surrounding roads, and piles of "stuff" in most yards as well as "sheds" built of scrap wood and random tarps.

        Note that the locals housing development area that did NOT burn were in considerably nicer condition with limited plantings, wider setbacks off better roads, and few abandoned cars caught on Google etc.

        This hard reality MUST BE ACCEPTED.

        So-

        Why did the expensive houses along the ocean strip not burn outside old town?

        Why did it stop where the bulk of the industrial business sites were below Kaanapali resorts?

        Quite simply:

        sparse burn materials at setbacks with wide roads or canals, planted flora and their water content, and tall concrete retaining walls and roof building materials.

        The main highway it burned right onto south of Lahaina has scrub grasses and barren areas on the inland side vs dense and very dead pineapple bush fields, with a continuous high stucco finish concrete wall on the ocean side of the hwy, combined with massively lush plantings in front of it and even more watered backyards on the protected side.

        And just like that one remodeled home IN Lahaina that didn't burn they pretty much all have steel roofs.

        Ditto the routine big grocery store site that only got scorched in town, and the business complex north. They ALSO had huge parking lots surrounding them and all but burn proof from exterior source heat or flames construction.

        This is the same reason MY local hospitals got out unscathed with just trees and landscape surrounding charred in '17, and they were right up at the burn zone line and created buffers themselves.

        Add there are deep canals north of old town that were clearly a firebreak point, and you can see why Kaanapali was much safer from spread.

        I say you should be sharing and telling others about the fire-

        About the INCREDIBLY BAD DECISIONS MADE AND ORDERS GIVEN ON ISLAND, AND LACK OF RESCUE EFFORTS FROM HI PR MIL OR FEDS... OR THE LYING ABOUT SERVICES AND NOT ANY CELL OR NET COMMS EVEN FOR THOSE FINALLY SENT IN..... THEN LOCKING THE PLACE DOWN AND PUTTING UP FENCES WITH MILITARY GUARDS LONG AFTER BODY SEARCHES ARE DONE.

        Find and share THAT.

        Imo, the other reports like this sre spread to cover up the real scandals.

        [–]chakokat 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        There's too many odd loose threads, up to and including the fact that the Chief of Police was the same guy who oversaw the Vegas mass shooting.

        What??

        😳

        That’s not strange, or weird, or odd, or a coincidence.

        [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Right?

        [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Your description sounds like a pinpoint Carrington Event.

        Instead of telegraph wires, steel belted radials.

        [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        And nails inside fence posts.

        [–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

        I agree with you that this should be open to discussion, and there is a lot of discussion and speculation online. The pitfall we need to avoid is muddying the waters by jumping to conclusions about why something happened - which can lead down a lot of rabbit holes - before clearly establishing what actually happened. Glad you posted this.

        [–]Promyka5When in the course of human events... 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

        Agreed. This is one of those topics that is likely to reflexively be branded "conspiracy theorizing," at least until video evidence is forthcoming, which has to be explained in conventional terms, but given what's apparent to the eye, those explanations stretch credulity. While other plausible explanations might explain so-called "chemtrails," though I haven't come to any conclusions on that matter, fires resulting from directed energy weapons are fires of an entirely different sort. And it seems this is why the burned area on the island of Maui is being blocked off from public access.

        [–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        That's the thing. The combination of silence, ostracism and opaqueness is what feeds "conspiracy theories" though I always try to stay mindful of what a long-time Wayer said some years ago about a scientist and UFO expert who was driven off the deep end when he realized some of the evidence he'd collected over decades had been deliberately planted or staged by the government to distract from what was really happening. Sorting out the elements that are true from the elements that are false is critical because the latter are often deliberate attempts to derail the so-called conspiracy theory as a whole.

        (IIRC the Wayer was u/BoniceMarquiFace, formerly known as u/MarquisBoniFace)

        [–]BoniceMarquiFace 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        I had a length comment reply but the page refreshed XD

        [–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Aargh, what a PITA.

        [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        And it seems this is why the burned area on the island of Maui is being blocked off from public access.

        And at the end of the video, the speaker makes note of the fact that all the clean-up crews are driving off-the-lot new vehicles. A fleet of them. This doesn't sound like a typical civilian clean up operation.

        [–]Promyka5When in the course of human events... 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

        Here's a video from a short while back that I had to search to find, which I think is pertinent:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHeoaIh7cx8

        Again, mundane fires just don't burn this way.

        [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

        Years ago I lost a Porsche to an engine fire. When the flames reached the gas tank, it didn't explode (because the tank was full), but it did turn the car into a ball of fire so intense you couldn't see the car through the flames. Burned this way for 15-20 minutes, with a fire crew standing by waiting for the fuel to be exhausted. The tires exploded, but the rims remained intact. The front hood, at the center of the fire-ball, was cut with giant fire-crew sheers so they could douse the tank and smoking wreckage. Meaning, even in that intense, sustained heat, no metal parts anywhere melted and had to be cut away.

        In the linked video, entire vehicles, to the rims, had melted. That's not a normal fire.

        [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

        Years ago I lost a Porsche to an engine fire.

        The way the conversation is going, I have to ask....
        How windy was it during the Porsche fire?

        [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

        There was a wind from behind, and the rear bumper looked untouched, but it also likely fed the fire that engulfed the rest.

        Which is why I discounted the images of half burned cars. What remains suspicious are homes reduced to ash while the trees surrounding them retained their needles and small branches. Or the blue umbrellas fully intact next to the charred remains of the building. Or the intact and unmarked wood landing adjacent to the burned shell of the mobile home.

        [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        What remains suspicious are homes reduced to ash while the trees surrounding them retained their needles and small branches. Or the blue umbrellas fully intact next to the charred remains of the building. Or the intact and unmarked wood landing adjacent to the burned shell of the mobile home.

        With enough wind in enough different directions, and with enough data available to pick and choose specific fire weirdnesses...
        It's not really that suspicious. After almost any major hurricane, reporters will go and find that one weird thing the hurricane did or didn't do.

        Demolished doublewide no longer attached to untouched deck? Check. Demolished deck no longer attached to untouched doublewide? Check.

        How much of that stuff didn't happen?

        [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

        There was a wind from behind, and the rear bumper looked untouched, but it also likely fed the fire that engulfed the rest.

        Do you think that a gale force wind would have made it much worse?

        [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        Do you think that a gale force wind would have made it much worse?

        It should have helped the fire spread to the Banyan tree.

        [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        The way I've heard this, the winds were not all going the same direction all the time.
        Eddies could have happened. Eddies of fire, and eddies of not-fire.

        [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Maybe a wind eddy surrounded the Banyan tree, but it still seems odd that none of its small branches or leaves, or the ground detritus, ever caught fire.

        [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

        What remains suspicious are homes reduced to ash while the trees surrounding them retained their needles and small branches

        Fire and wind combined does weird things, but it does not usually do that. There's usually a path. Most likely, either someone torched their own home for the insurance money and the fire didn't get there, or you saw selective footage that did not show how the fire got to the home in question. The fire could have gone in one slim finger to the house, torched it and stopped. Then the film shows a 350 degree angle around the house of unburned trees.

        Huge wildfires have done stranger things. Such as embers reaching a house from above and creating a firenado.

        [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

        Now look at the massive Banyan tree in the video. Structures on all three sides reduced to ashes, as well as boats in the harbor across from it. That's 360 degrees of intense fire surrounding a massive block sized tree that didn't burn, with park benches and ground detritus around it that also didn't burn.

        [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Now look at the massive Banyan tree in the video....That's 360 degrees of intense fire...

        Wait... what happened to the house? Was there not a 360 degree shot of lack of fire damage around it?

        [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I thought there was an image that showed the structures on all three sides of the Banyan tree reduced to ash, as well as the boats in the harbor in front of it. That's all four sides around it, and it wasn't burnt.

        [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        Try it this way: Suppose you have magic powers to control what the wind does, let's call it AirBending.
        But only during intense fires.

        Could you, through control of the air in a fire, make these effects happen?

        Could you swirl a swath of cooler air around a favorite Banyan tree to save it while all around it burns? Yes.
        Could you make it so that one quadrant of a car just melts but the opposite corner is still like new? Yes.
        Could you make this stack of tires erupt in flame while another stack three feet away doesn't? Yes.

        All that you could theoretically do through magic control of the winds, Wind and Fire is capable of doing, at least once.

        Could you make a single nail in a tree burn part of a tree at point of contact, without harming the rest of the tree? Don't think so.
        [Edit: you could, if you had some other metal attached to the nail that you could heat up instead of heating the nail directly.]
        Could you, shown a pile of identical-looking tires, make only the ones containing steel belts burn? Don't think so either.

        If that kind of thing happened, I would suggest focusing on those things that Wind And Fire in combination cannot do.
        If you could do it through AirBending, it's possible that Wind and Fire in combination really did it.

        [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Could you, shown a pile of identical-looking tires, make only the ones containing steel belts burn? Don't think so either.

        Microwaves could do this.