Directed Energy Weapons

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[–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (30 children)

For every piece of "evidence" I've seen so far, I've seen identical things in my own house

Steel belted tires reduced to ash next to poly-corded tires intact? Fence posts that burned from the nails out? Jeeps with melted hoods? Entirely incinerated homes next to trees with intact needles and small branches?

Watch the video and get back to me if any of those things are normal in a fire.

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    [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

    I had 50 feet of fence with burns around the staples in the posts when a power line fell on them during a thunderstorm.

    I thought more about this as it relates to the fence burning from the nails inside. Plausable, except the power in Lahana had been cut.

    [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

    I thought more about this as it relates to the fence burning from the nails inside. Plausable...

    It would also depend upon where the nails were. Occasionally there would be a nail not attached to the metal part of the fence, to hang something on. Did those nails (not attached to anything) also burn the posts? If the effect was electrical from the metal fence, those would not have burned.

    If there were such a thing as a Carrington Gun, and if it were to have been used, either all the nails would have burned the posts, or just the nails at right angles to the direction of the alleged beam. Is there evidence of either of those things?

    ...except the power in Lahana had been cut.

    Couldn't that part have happened before power was cut?

    (Yes, I'm examining from both sides at once)

    [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    It was a wood fence, with the runners attached by four nails where it crossed the post. It clearly burned only where the cross-runners were nailed on. I the image i the video you can still see the nails where the post if charred.

    Couldn't that part have happened before power was cut?

    Yes it could.

    [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

    It clearly burned only where the cross-runners were nailed on.

    Metal conducts heat better than air. And melts at a much higher point than the flash point of wood.
    The metal runners could have heated up the wood at point of contact, if the runners were still attached at the time.

    Unconnected nails in wood burning the wood (without the rest of the wood burning) would need a different cause.

    [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    The metal runners could have heated up the wood at point of contact,

    It didn't look like metal runners in the image. Maybe I missed them?

    [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    It clearly burned only where the cross-runners were nailed on.

    It didn't look like metal runners in the image.

    What were the cross runners made of? Also, were the nail heads still there?

    [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    There's a wood cross-runner on the ground, and the nail heads were still protruding from the char where the wood runner was attached to the post.

    [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    There's a wood cross-runner on the ground,

    Was the cross-runner charred or burnt?

    [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I had 50 feet of fence with burns around the staples in the posts when a power line fell on them during a thunderstorm.

    "Burns around the staples" sounds like something more electrical than fire related....

    I haven't looked at the "fence posts that burned from the nails out" footage, but that one, if as described, would seem to be difficult to achieve by fire alone. Maybe it's not quite as described, but if it is....

    [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    "Burns around the staples" sounds like something more electrical than fire related....

    Agreed. But the power had been cut to the area.

    [–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Remids me of the X-Ray laser from Mote in God's Eye.

    [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Did you take the time to watch the video?

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      [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Nope, it was definitely a DEW. Definitely. Had to be. Probably from space, because the technology exists; so of course we'd certainly use it on ourselves.

      No need to be a dick.

      We have the technology, and have since the 80's. And we have a very long history of not giving a fuck about how many innocent civilians are killed in the name of acquiring land and power, up to and including the entire covid mess. Are you really unaware of any of this? Is it that unthinkable that those who control our leaders would do something like this, considering their history of doing anything necessary to gain wealth and control without regard for lives and well-being?

      [–]sdl5 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

      Yes Thumb.

      You know me. Super sensible but no trust in govt or narratives.

      I am ALSO a wildfire survivor, and witnessed up close the exact "bizarre" results of a wind driven plus powerlines wildfire sweeping down a mountainside into town.

      I watched it form, burn, change directions when the wind did, roars right on past some spots and turn to melted puddles and ashes others.

      Wind velocity at location, other structures, landscaping moisture or retaining walls vs none, subtle geographic or flora details that protected or nuked buffers, animals surviving "impossible" conditions, items that looked entirely unscathed surrounded by scorched melted remains and ash... that literally dissolved once touched.

      Tires are tricky in that different types of materials used can ignite or burn or NOT BURN very dramatically differently.

      The list of things syllables and myself ALONE have witnessed and stayed around to check and verify ourselves is huge- why would you ignore both of us, that you KNOW are sane stable and not easily fooled longterm WotB members? In favor of videos that are getting progressively more bizarre and frankly paranoid?

      More tyan enough ugly corrupt stupid to go around in Maui, no need to make shit up- or poison the well with crazy claims. That just gives the LEGIT targets and horrible actions or lack thereof cover tbh.

      [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

      Did you watch the video? It's no longer conjecture if our gov has DEWs. And it's long past conjecture if our gov would ever sacrifice its own citizens for the gains of the powerful.

      There's too many odd loose threads, up to and including the fact that the Chief of Police was the same guy who oversaw the Vegas mass shooting.

      [–]sdl5 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      Guy.

      It's me.

      OF COURSE I watched the video.

      And have already done the back research and deep dive on claims, and watched other actual on site videos and drones etc etc etc.

      Maui is an island County, and in geography is essentially TWO islands with an isthmus connecting them.

      Lahaina and Kaanapali zone is quite separate from the rest, and going further north or even east up the mountain from there is sparsely to no population locals and wild areas. I have actually been there, know the terrain and populations and problems. Extended fam DIED in Lahaina, in their car trying to evac dude.

      The LE boss would have been living on the other half where the bulk of the population is. And may or may not be a factor in the RESPONSES. Ditto for FD boss, Water Dept and school District local govt authorities.

      THOSE choices and responses in toto are the scandal needing loudspeakers in media and online.

      That HI or mil Fed response was so sparse is a MAJOR scandal as well- the CG were the only responders and saved lives from the water off Lahaina as the fires still raged in town and on the marina.

      This other shit is deliberately poisoning the well

      Remember Mpls 20? And how many wild ass claims were made after, but you were THERE and knew bullshit was being spread? That.

      [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      This other shit is deliberately poisoning the well

      So the local authorities did everything they could to allow as many deaths as possible, but they wouldn't go that far?

      I no longer believe the gov is beyond any of this. It's war being played by a new set of rules, and our ability to believe they would do this still has a long way to catch up.

      How many decades has it taken to even start to believe our bureaucratic establishment would assassinate our own president? 9-11 is in hindsight an obvious inside job. TPTB never cared how many innocent lives would be lost in any of their wars, be it our own citizens or those of other countries. They didn't care how many lives ended or destroyed with the covid play. But it's unthinkable that they would use technology we know they have to further their land and power grab ambitions, and to suggest as much is poisoning a well they long ago poisoned? As if our ignoring this aspect of the big picture will move us any closer to the truth behind what's happening?

      And how many wild ass claims were made after, but you were THERE and knew bullshit was being spread?

      I was there, and it was less about wild ass claims being made as it was what wasn't being reported. Bullshit by omission. The riots weren't spontaneous or organic. It was another early version of J6, where professional instigators lit the proverbial match and then fanned the flames for the cameras.

      [–]sdl5 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Incompetence is RAMPANT in govt there. Like think illiterate 4th world levels.

      They are also entirely INCAPABLE of keeping their mouths shut about anything, no matter how damaging. As you could witness on camera in the early govt media updates- the Las Vegas cop all but smacked his forehead on camera in reaction as he stood behind the speakers.

      The meeting on cities and planning upcoming on Maui and past plans made w govt leaders being blurted out and then blasted on media is classic.

      The overt refusal to turn off power or even contact the power company, the denial of requests to open access to the water towers, the redirect of FD crews away from watching the remnants of the morning fire for flare up... All defended live and in person repeatedly on camera to nedia- by the authorities in charge themselves.

      They are INCOMPETENT IDIOTS.

      This was bound to happen, fallow dead pineapple fields, siphoned off upland watertables to East Maui and the lower coast, minimal FD budgets and low staffing or training, deliberate hiring of blind order followers as LE and FD staff who couldn't even recognize their OWN lives were at risk by doing so...

      All compounded by an attitude in locals that if it were a REAL emergency then the govt would announce it and be there telling them exactly what to do.

      [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Sounds like a perfect set-up to ultimately destroy the land they've been coveting for a very long time.

      Incompetence always seems to only harm those at the bottom of the food chain.

      [–]sdl5 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Now THIS is true.

      That the situation could be anticipated by actual smart and covetous parties is beyond doubt.

      That some level of influence on resources given or response restrictions made were involved is completely viable.

      That the sacred and historic sites legally limited their reach for seizing land is facts.

      That they hoped for conditions that could be exploited, conditions likely at least once every 5 years if not more frequently depending on weather cycle patterns- definitely a reasonable suspicion to hold.

      But consider that virtually EVERY small biz in old town are the middle to upper middle and even elite levels of Maui HI, as were the bulk of the marina boats...

      This took out far more than just the majority of the locals housing and schools built on the lower reclaimed fields.

      Homes with numerous abandoned cars on all the surrounding roads, and piles of "stuff" in most yards as well as "sheds" built of scrap wood and random tarps.

      Note that the locals housing development area that did NOT burn were in considerably nicer condition with limited plantings, wider setbacks off better roads, and few abandoned cars caught on Google etc.

      This hard reality MUST BE ACCEPTED.

      So-

      Why did the expensive houses along the ocean strip not burn outside old town?

      Why did it stop where the bulk of the industrial business sites were below Kaanapali resorts?

      Quite simply:

      sparse burn materials at setbacks with wide roads or canals, planted flora and their water content, and tall concrete retaining walls and roof building materials.

      The main highway it burned right onto south of Lahaina has scrub grasses and barren areas on the inland side vs dense and very dead pineapple bush fields, with a continuous high stucco finish concrete wall on the ocean side of the hwy, combined with massively lush plantings in front of it and even more watered backyards on the protected side.

      And just like that one remodeled home IN Lahaina that didn't burn they pretty much all have steel roofs.

      Ditto the routine big grocery store site that only got scorched in town, and the business complex north. They ALSO had huge parking lots surrounding them and all but burn proof from exterior source heat or flames construction.

      This is the same reason MY local hospitals got out unscathed with just trees and landscape surrounding charred in '17, and they were right up at the burn zone line and created buffers themselves.

      Add there are deep canals north of old town that were clearly a firebreak point, and you can see why Kaanapali was much safer from spread.

      I say you should be sharing and telling others about the fire-

      About the INCREDIBLY BAD DECISIONS MADE AND ORDERS GIVEN ON ISLAND, AND LACK OF RESCUE EFFORTS FROM HI PR MIL OR FEDS... OR THE LYING ABOUT SERVICES AND NOT ANY CELL OR NET COMMS EVEN FOR THOSE FINALLY SENT IN..... THEN LOCKING THE PLACE DOWN AND PUTTING UP FENCES WITH MILITARY GUARDS LONG AFTER BODY SEARCHES ARE DONE.

      Find and share THAT.

      Imo, the other reports like this sre spread to cover up the real scandals.

      [–]chakokat 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      There's too many odd loose threads, up to and including the fact that the Chief of Police was the same guy who oversaw the Vegas mass shooting.

      What??

      😳

      That’s not strange, or weird, or odd, or a coincidence.

      [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Right?