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I first read it as the moron class including me, maybe even as the head of the class,

Yes! Head moron! (lol j/k) No, I was doing that thing where you kind of assume your interlocutor is substantially in the same demographic. Hence, my question about 'slumming'.

As for reddit, it became unusable in 2015, and I recommend not using it except for specific instances, as in clicking a reddit link in search results.

I resorted to that glib reply at first because I didn't want to go full diatribe, but didn't see an easy way to only partially address the issues.

What would you say are the implications of your two paragraphs here? Zoom out to the biggest possible picture, where we're one of numerous mammal species on the surface of this planet, and one near the top (hopefully) of the boom phase in the boom/bust cycle.

(As an aside, note that virtually every single problem facing our species today would not be any problem at all with the correct - sustainable - population level.)

The worst part of the dystopias painted by 1984 and Brave New World is not the oppressive tyranny that's laid down like a blanket on the populace, but their firm embrace of it...

Others may not agree that I've "jumped ahead to the conclusion" when considering this and similar issues, but I believe I'm being rational and objective. Characterize it how you will, but at least one way to perceive the situation is that the 'elites' have conclusively proven the vast majority of humans are not only excess, but a detriment to the survival of our species.

If it's a quality control test, we are obviously a defective product. If it's like offering a bait car to see if anyone will take it, we've taken it wholeheartedly.

"Uncle Ted" made some mistakes, and sorry for the tone of that article, but he was fundamentally correct about the nature of our species vis-à-vis technology.

The 'elites' are not innocents, but their contempt for the masses is not entirely misplaced.

Anyway, that's my rant for the day.

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There's no question the "elites" have been discussing population control in a surprisingly overt way, but whether the virus was specifically engineered to set up the pins, the vaccines were designed to get the ball rolling, and the vaccine passports and mandates were intended to help knock the pins down, I can't say. It's an interpretation that assigns a lot of unknown intentions to, admittedly, a lot of unfathomably nefarious actors, but again, it's an interpretation.

I can conclude that something is going on, but because it's been deliberately shrouded by discouraging all questions and critical analysis followed by outright censorship that intensifies every day, I recognize clearly why conspiracy theories (and I don't use that term in a disparaging way) would crop up and point to the least charitable explanations. Isn't it funny, though, how those who have so much riding on obscuring the truth are so desperately concerned with "misinformation" and "conspiracy theories?"

In short, I have precisely zero trust in ANY institutions as a result, and though I'm sure something is going on, an unavoidable conclusion given all of the strident Establishment demands to strictly abide by their narrative even as it changes constantly, I have no reliable epistemological means of concluding exactly what for certain that might be.

But do I appreciate the fact that so many people are suggesting competing provisional interpretations of these events, any of which might turn out to be the correct one. It's just that it's vital not to lose sight of the fact that each is provisional until it can be proven. If we do ever hit on the truth, I look forward to seeing real justice, if such a thing is even possible anymore. If not, there are other, less savory remedies....

edit to add: I have perused Kaczynski's manifesto in the past, and I also think he saw with clear vision what was happening, whether or not he ultimately targeted the right individuals in order to address it. Though we got off on the wrong foot, I find our conversation edifying.

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I've just rediscovered this section of lost saidit tabs. (I'm a tab hoarder...) 😬

I recognize clearly why conspiracy theories ​would crop up and point to the least charitable explanations.

Population reduction seems like one of the most charitable explanations, at least for our species as a whole. The worst would be the opposite, with an increase to 10 billion and more being their goal. We're well on our way to becoming a human feed lot, just like we do for cattle, and for many of the same reasons. Farming humans has got to be the most profitable strategy they've ever come up with, but hopefully at least some of them have looked ahead to the consequences.