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[–]IkeConn 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The law suits have already started. This is going to be fun to watch.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Lol. Yeah cause you know like 99% of the time it is malpractice innit. You find some confused kid and immediately go with the most profitable treatment rather than trying to figure out what's wrong or find far less invasive solutions. Of course that is fucking malpractice. Hell I'd say it's criminal malpractice warranting life in prison in many cases.

[–]LyingSpirit472 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Honestly, I don't even know if it's covered since most of this would be "under duress". It's hard to call a doctor who does this to a kid the one committing malpractice when in most cases, the confused kid is saying "you have to give me this surgery or I'll self-delete!", in the process threatening their own life to get the surgery to hurt them- the ultimate of "careful what you wish for, you just might get it" you can get.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Doctors have been dealing with people saying “Do this to me or I’ll do something myself” for a long time. The traditional method of addressing that was a psychiatric hold and, potentially, committal to a psychiatric institution for treatment of the underlying mental illness.

The fact that doctors are abandoning their professional duty of care to their patients, in fact the most vulnerable patients, is a disgrace.

It’s hard to see that the whole push to define mental illnesses and cognitive distortions as merely different ways of thinking - essentially the demonisation of the concept of “normal” (Queer theory) is the greatest harm done to the Anglosphere in the 21st century.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly.

People threatening suicide unless they get their way fall into two categories.

One, the actually suicidal who are under such a distress for whatever reason that they are a danger to themselves and others, they need the psychiatric hold and need to be institutionalized so they can be watched until they get better.

Two, sociopaths that are engaging in what I like to call "emotional terrorism" where they are taking advantage of general societies empathy and tendency not to just be all like "ok bye then" towards people threatening suicide.

Since in any public facing roll you can't really effectively screen the difference between the truly suicidally insane and the sociopaths, you just treat them all as suicidally insane and institutionalize them, this limits the ability of the sociopaths to use this strategy anyway since it no longer accomplishes their goals.

[–]xoenix[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

It's hard to call a doctor who does this to a kid the one committing malpractice when in most cases

How many people work in this field who don't want to perform the surgeries?

[–]LyingSpirit472 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Whether or not the doctor wants to perform the surgery- many, many more of these kids having it done flat-out say "if you don't give me the surgery I'll kill myself!"...and no matter how much the doctor wants to perform the surgery, the SECOND the kid plays that card they threatened to harm themselves if the doctor didn't agree to do it, and thus the doctor performed it under duress legally.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think it's been cleaned up and hidden by now, but a lot of the Reddit tranny conversion subs had advice on doctor shopping, how to find someone who'd give you what you wanted--whether that was hormones or more--to troon out. And how to bullshit past any of the mental checks that were in place as well.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They had scripts for getting through the checks. Reddit essentially made it impossible to protect children from harm.

[–]JulienMayfair 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And, don't forget our namesake, Tumblr.

[–]LyingSpirit472 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly, and that's ultimately the big problem. This will not stop to punish the doctors; the people doing this shit are also communists and will laugh and say "money vacuum go brrr"- if anything, they'll tell each other to sue the doctor who did it just to get money.

The only way it will stop is if they go after these people helping with conversions- even if they have no money, once their actions have consequences they'll be punished.

[–]xoenix[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was alluding to the multiple stories I've read about how the cautious doctors were all purged from the industry during the 2000s in favour of the "affirmation only" doctors.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It seems like most doctors don't participate in this but certain doctors are activists.

[–]William_World 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

it makes sense the premium would be higher. Usually when you go in to get a surgery you sign stuff saying you know the risk. But a minor can't be expected to know that.

[–]jet199 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good

[–]iamonlyoneman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Capitalism saves the day, again!