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[–]Wanderingthehalls 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

It was definitely the trans shit for me. I used to believe that people were genuinely trans. I very, very much assumed that huge amounts of caution were exercised when children claimed to be the opposite sex. And I thought it was so obvious that transwomen couldn't be in women's sports or prisons and third spaces of some kind would be made. When people started bullshitting that no transwomen really were physically just like women I couldn't get my head around how stupid it was. Then non-binary started and that's just fucking beyond parody stupid. Then I looked into it and saw that they not only rushed children to transition, but actively promote it to kids. It made me question just about every single thing I thought I knew.

That said, I'm currently reeling again at all the utter dumbfuck morons online claiming that the released Israeli hostages had a great old time with their sweet, huggable Hamas captors. I didn't think that people could honestly be that fucking stupid. Even if you politically side with the Palestinians, how the actual fuck can you look at pictures and video of terrified people doing what they are told in the hopes of surviving and having their still captive loved ones survive, and claim it's genuine love and respect for their captors.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Even if you politically side with the Palestinians, how the actual fuck can you look at pictures and video of terrified people doing what they are told in the hopes of surviving and having their still captive loved ones survive, and claim it's genuine love and respect for their captors.

It's because they're completely disconnected from reality. Between the echo chambers and the natural insulation provided by watching this stuff through sanitized (and carefully spun) media, they can embrace the lie that Hamas are just innocent victims themselves.

Anything really bad that they do is either the work of bad actors or propaganda from certain (coughcoughJewishcoughcough) sources--or, in the minds of the the quietly bloodthirsty supporters, obviously deserved--and most of Hamas is obviously nothing like how they're portrayed.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I fucking despair for humanity. I didn't think so many people were so very, very stupid while thinking they are so clever that they are happy to actively promote their stupidity online. This morning I saw a twitter post from someone who walked past the school in Dublin where a week ago three children and a care worker were stabbed, and he complained that there were a pair of drunks/drug addicts sitting on the entrance steps that the children had to walk around. Straight away some fucking white knight jumped up to berate him for his prejudices against the poor victims of addiction. The original poster was clearly making a point about the lack of care being shown by the gardai to the children and staff of a school that had just gone through a very real trauma. The state should be doing everything they can to help those kids feel safe but they are being ignored. And this stupid shit jumps up to call the person pointing this out a bigot.

[–]LyingSpirit472 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, the problem is more we're in the endgame of "politics as sports team". Humanity spent millennia under the viewpoint "people are willing to come around if you show them they're right", and all it took was about 15 years of social media to change that to "you don't get it, do you? We'd RATHER BE WRONG than admit you're right, because if we admit you're right then that means you WIN!"

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's because they're completely disconnected from reality.

Oh the irony.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

how the actual fuck can you look at pictures and video of terrified people doing what they are told

Hamas lets their freed people speak openly about their experiences. Israel doesn't. That is all you need to know.

You're obviously referring to pictures and videos in some other alternative universe to ours. How much Kool-Aid do you have to drink to look at something like this or this and see "terror" in the released hostages' face???

Do you imagine that Hamas ' reach is so long they can intimidate freed Thai workers and their families back home?

You don't have to believe that Hamas are kind and cuddly tree-hugging hippies singing Kumbaya all day long. You just have to understand that they know that they can't defeat Israel militarily without outside help, not so long as Israel has the support of the USA, but they can win the PR war and gain friends and allies by simply not acting like Israel does. The more Israel acts like Israel always acts, and the more Hamas doesn't, the more Israel will be diplomatically isolated and eventually politically, economically and militarily.

There is absolutely nothing to gain for Hamas to torture or mistreat their captives, and everything to gain by treating them with as much humanity as possible during a war. Including their little dog.

Hamas has done their best to publicise the experiences of every one of the freed Palestinians, while Israel has put their freed hostages under media lockdown and refuses to let them speak freely in case they go off message, like Yocheved Lifshitz did.

Hamas are fighting a resistance war against a hostile, racist regime dominated by religious extremists that openly calls for the elimination of all Palestinians from Greater Israel, whether by ethnic cleansing, forced expulsion, or genocide. I'm not saying that every member of Hamas is as innocent as the driven snow, but they are the moderates in this war. Every Israeli accusation is a confession.