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[–]LtGreenCo 9 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

And at the end of the day, a man that looks like a woman is still a man

Fucking hilarious that by validating her weird reverse uno trans identity, she's also invalidating MtF identities.

[–]QueenBread[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

And I'm sure she will be toooootally fine with a huge man in a dress masturbating in the bathroom stall next to her.

[–]TitsAndWhiskeyPronoun: My Nigga 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lol good point, good point.

[–]QueenBread[S] 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You can see that this makes sense if you think "man = person" and "woman = not a person". And all the other comments equally filled with internalized mysoginy.

[–]TitsAndWhiskeyPronoun: My Nigga 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Equating body image with “transness” is exactly why we have an epidemic of young women mutilating themselves.

If the internalized message was “you can dress and act however you want, but you’re still a woman,” we wouldn’t have this problem.

Males are mostly AGP and groomers, though.

[–]QueenBread[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I agree 100%. What I wonder is why this is happening. Just in the '90s, not long ago, the idea was that feminine men and masculine women were fine. I don't want to sound racist, but hasn't this sudden regression to the worst gender roles began in tandem with the arrival of immigrants from islamic countries?

Or maybe I'm racist. Either way, the whole TRA movement is about "if you look like something, you ARE that something". Let me put on a gorilla suit.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’s happening because the LGBT campaign groups needed to keep the spice the cash flowing after gay marriage was passed in all western countries.

It’s been pointed out numerous times, old school transexuals never really bothered anyone and generally never wanted any attention. But once Bruce Jenner transitioned and the media and ngos fawned over him, the floodgates were opened.

If they suddenly got full gender self-ID and TWAW was made legal policy, the NGOs and campaigners would shift to the next things probably incest and bestiality first, and then paedophilia.

Additionally, Kinkshaming should never have been stopped, the social pressure that keeping your degenerate sexual habits to yourself exerted cannot be overlooked. And quite frankly, why do I need to know that you like a choke and stroke or to wear a buttplug tail?

But the fucking degenerates like telling people about their shit and telling supportive people isn’t as fulfilling as forcing it on everyone - and turning it into a rights issue makes your the good guy when you are discussing anal sex with 9-year olds.

[–]TitsAndWhiskeyPronoun: My Nigga 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I had a female cousin in the 90s who rebuilt and rode an old Harley dirt bike. She had no problem with who she was. Just a bad ass farm girl.

[–]LyingSpirit472 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't want to sound racist, but hasn't this sudden regression to the worst gender roles began in tandem with the arrival of immigrants from islamic countries?

It still seems more like it's exploded in the last decade, right around when the Internet made everyone extremely entitled and when men and women have been at each other's throats for so long. This ties to a lot of the TRA stuff- women saying "I don't want to be treated like a second class citizen, if men are the only people who get a fair shake in society, I'll be a man" or men saying "the rules of modern society are so rigged against us that there's no option, including not playing, but losing, so I choose to be a trans woman so I vault to the top of Oppression Olympics and people will listen to my problems and do something about them".

[–]Clown_Chan 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

but hasn't this sudden regression to the worst gender roles began in tandem with the arrival of immigrants from islamic countries?

No, I don' think so. Besides, absolute majority of the muslims aren't trans.

The troon madness began just right after LGBT freaks gained right to marry in western countries.

[–]filbs111 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

This is what kids need to do these days to not get cancelled. Don't hate the player.

[–]Clown_Chan 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I won't be suprised if many of these dumbass teenage girls who identify as "trans" online, do so they can enjoy their yaoi porn without being cancelled for being cis, hetero girls who fetishize gay relationships. But if they suddenly identify as UwU trans gay femcatboy UwU, it's completely fine and safe from Tumblerina wrath.

[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I for one don't get why a straight woman would enjoy yaoi. But at the same time I don't get why these queer circles would hate on someone for liking yaoi (aren't they accepting of all?) that's so weird.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've heard in gay circles that, especially in the past, bisexual people were looked down upon, I'm not sure all of the reasons why (not gay enough? someone who sleeps with the enemy? Idk) But one reason I've heard is because basically someone can just pretend to be gay and try to get into gay social spaces and gain cred but they are actually straight.

And like, that kinda makes sense. Usually the counter argument is that nobody would actually want to be gay since people treat you badly, but I think the social dynamics have changed there, gay people are considered cool in many circles, and people who want attention would claim the label since it got them attention.

I think we might see something similar here, if being trans is something that gets you attention and praise then people will do it, and if you can be trans without actually doing anything then all the more so.

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is what the word "faggot" was made for.

[–]Clown_Chan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I'm fucking confused.....she wants people to see her as man but she doesn't want to actually be a man, she still wants to look and behave like a normal cis woman but just use male pronouns. That's fucking lazy, lol At least AGPs are putting some effort and at least crossdress and take hormones, this lazy bitch just demand from other people to use male pronous for her even though she don't even try to look like a man. How fucking narcissist and entitled.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's just that they don't know what a "man" is. It's what happens when you get into the weeds of gender theory, a man is someone who is assertive and confident, but a woman is passive and timid? Um ok sure that's probably a statistical likelihood but it's a pretty sexist stereotype if you think women can't be assertive and confident and men can't be passive and timid.

See it's just easier if you define man as "someone who has (or had) a penis" for 99.99% of situations. But you know, sex and gender aren't the same thing. Sex is an objective reality that exists and is pretty clearly defined, and gender is some sort of subjective feeling about yourself I guess that has no definition and can mean literally anything to anyone, so it's a pretty useless metric.

I don't think what this person gets is that if you are a woman, dress like a woman, and act like a woman, but then insist that people call you a man and treat you like a man, they're just going to assume you are crazy.

[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

clown_chan you of all people using the word cis? 😂

[–]Clown_Chan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well, why not?

It's short, practical word, good for distinguishing normal people from gender loonies.

[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's because the gender loonies invented that word. You're using their language.

Think about it. If you call females "cis women" and trans women just "women" that's erasing women.

Just say "woman" and if you want to be explicit use "female" or "biological woman". That way trans women stay trans women.

By the way you don't need to politicize if someone calls themselves or their friends cis. Just say you yourself won't like to be refered as cis.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

AGPs don't take hormones (and if they do it's the bare minimum). That would ruin their only reason for identifying as trans in the first place.

[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting that she still chooses to keep her friends that find other trans people disgusting. She didn't even call them transphobes. Means she's still not deep into the trans cult otherwise she wouldn't say something like "And at the end of the day, a man that looks like a woman is still a man" because it would piss off other cultists.

I find that trans men most of the time are still more sane than trans women. I would maybe even allow my children to invite one to my house, assuming they're not queer and they behave properly. Trans women though? Too much trouble, not in my house.

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Like the Victor Victoria movie?