Students terf out in class, teacher haplessly tries to argue, then tells them they don't belong in this school

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[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 22 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Sneaky kids, hiding the active camera to catch their teacher's bullshit for posterity. It gives me a bit of hope, that maybe the kids in school right now won't be complete tools as adults.

[–]BobOki 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

You can get outright banned from Reddit for saying this happens in school, and will be PERM banned from the site if you post a link to a video or audio proving it. There are only a few thousand on the net to chose from, but "that does not happen, stop lying you alt-right nazi!!" whatever.

[–]Dragonerne 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

People that gaslight you about things not happening because they don't know about it annoys me so much :D

[–]OpinionatedCat 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Just like trans surgery on minors "doesn't happen!"

[–]Clownfall 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The 'mutilating minors' argument is a poor and overused one, as it's very rare that minors get surgery (although there seem to be a few exceptions).

Problem is, putting minors on puberty blockers is getting them on board the trans train early, destination mutilation, with hormones and surgery in early adulthood being vastly more likely than if they were left alone and likely to desist or simply come out as gay/lesbian.

And more people need to become aware of the brutality of 'bottom surgery' and the life-destroying complications with basic bodily functions that seem all-too-common. Most people don't have any idea that a phalloplasty can involve sacrificing so much arm flesh, leaving massive scars and numbness, all to create a fake dick, likely with minimal sexual sensation, that needs pumping up to simulate an erection.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It doesn't happen.

But also there's a well known TV show where it happened (badly) and was celebrated as a good thing.

[–]William_World 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

i did this with a doctor that was trying to lie to me, he sperged out when i told him saying it was illegal to record lol. i still got him to change his mind out of fear of going viral

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't know that it's actually illegal--aside from doing so with concealed devices in places where an expectation of privacy exists, like a bedroom or bathroom--even in places where all parties have to consent to being recorded. Inadmissible as evidence in a court case, almost certainly.

[–]William_World 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yeah you're supposed to tell people you're recording in my state, who cares, court of public opinion matters these days and it's good to threaten to make people go viral.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is the third story this week of young people opposing the alphabet agenda.

It’s the story of the Emperor’s New Clothes coming to life before our eyes, right down to the young people calling bullshit on the whole thing.

[–]Dzonatan 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I wonder if it's children's natural rebellious phase or ability to see objective reality.

[–]xoenix[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I also assume any parent not captured by gender ideology is probably arming their kids with as much gender critical ammunition as possible. Defending your family from the state seems like a pretty good family bonding experience TBH.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Glad to see (or hear) young people pushing back on this. Why are teachers wasting their time on this shit in class?

[–]xoenix[S] 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

Whenever I hear adults, especially anyone over 40, proselytizing gender religion I have to suspect that they or someone they know transed their kids and now need to be gender warriors like Jamie Lee Curtis. Because the alternative is unthinkable to them.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That, and people desperate to prove themselves Good People to their leftist political tribe. Or just overtly mentally ill and easily led. When I watch interviews with these people at protests, many of them can't even explain why they're there.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Isn’t Jamie Lee Curtis’ trans identifying son just a straight up anime-obsessed AGP? Did JLC actually trans him as a kid?

[–]Femaleisnthateful 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't think JLC had a hand in his transition. He seems like the classic pornsick incel. JLC is trying desperately to make it look normal and progressive.

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That one is so gross. You can smell that that boy from his photo.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think she's definitly cluster B so has brought up her kids with the same disorder.

http://tun.in/tnNbfa 25 mins in

[–]xoenix[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Is he actually financially independent? He's probably still a kid.

In any case, if she accepted his gender identity while he was still a minor, I'd classify that as transing your kid. Heck, I'd even classify it as transing your kid if they're 30 and still live off the allowance you pay them.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

25 when he trooned out

He’s an AGP

[–]Femaleisnthateful 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'd never seen that particular interview before. The inversion of roles is so interesting - JLC positioning herself as the 'student' and her troon child by inference is the 'teacher'. What she describes is a life of walking on eggshells to avoid the perception of transphobia - watching her language, speaking slowly to avoid 'mistakes'. Did we have to do any of this with gay people? Or literally any other 'marginalized' group? No, but of course, it's just all about 'respect'.

[–]Clownfall 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

A genderspecial kid has become the ultimate fashion accessory for wealthy woke white people.

[–]OuroborosTheory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it's the new peanut allergy--once they said "you don't need dysphoria to be trans!" anyone who wasn't the most cliched meathead or bimbette could say "I'm SO queer and nonbinary and pan and poly and" when it was a guy and a gal in a steady relationship

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    [–]ClassroomPast6178 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    In England, where this event seems to have occurred, there’s been a drive to attract recent university graduates into teaching to meet the desperate need for teachers, they offer various incentives including financial support to train as a teacher.

    What this has meant however is that as university students/graduates have become increasingly woke so has the teaching profession.

    What saves us in England from the outright madness of US teachers is that there is a fairly tight control on the curriculum (we have a national curriculum, national exams at 10/11, 16 and 18) so teachers are not free to teach whatever they feel like.

    What has thrown a bit of a spanner in the works in the past two years is that, in order to counter religious nuttery - largely from the religion of peace, the government introduced mandatory sex and relationships education, a move I am largely in favour of.

    However, and this is where the government fucked up, it didn’t specify the sex and relationships education curriculum and schools, already receiving poor advice from groups like Stonewall, turned to outside groups, including Stonewall I believe, to provide the sex and relationships education schemes of work (syllabi) and you can guess what the emphasis was in a Stonewall-approved syllabus was.

    So we have a female dominated profession that skews towards the younger more woke end being advised by the alphabet agenda pushing Stonewall and schools desperate to demonstrate their DEI credentials (because the school inspectors check that sort of thing).

    Things may get a lot worse under the Labour government that is almost certainly going to sweep in at the next election - they have pledged to “decolonise” the curriculum- presumably every white child will be made to feel ashamed for being white and will be encouraged to report their parents for wrongthink.

    I watched my amazingly unwoke headteacher get more and more indoctrinated into DEI stuff between 2015-2020 to the point that it became painful listening to her talk at times. There was a half-day of staff training on how special black girls’ hair is and how oppressed they have been because of it - I shit you not.

    [–]ageingrockstar 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    the government introduced mandatory sex and relationships education, a move I am largely in favour of

    Not a parent but not sure I would be in favour of that. Good to teach sex education in schools, as long as it's factual (e.g. sexual biology, stages of pregnancy, sexual diseases and risks of transmission, contraceptive methods, etc), although students should still be able to opt out. But I can't see why schools should be teaching 'relationships education' which could easily be used to promote an ideological agenda as it has virtually no objective foundations to rest upon.

    [–]ClassroomPast6178 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    I’ve only ever taught the primary school age stuff, but relationships education that I taught was about the different kinds of relationships (family vs friends vs strangers) but most of it was safeguarding stuff and who to talk to if something happens that makes you uncomfortable.

    One of the rules that the government included when they brought in mandatory sex and relationships education was that it had to be age-appropriate. So for instance, there’s zero mention of body parts or biology until children are in Y5 (9-10 yo) or Y6 (10-11 yo), which makes sense as early puberty starts for some at around that age or shortly afterwards and at 11 yo they will move on to highschool and be with children potentially up to 18 yo, so it makes sense that they understand stuff about safeguarding and consent.

    I was very confused by the reaction to the Florida law, as it mimics the rules in England that are not controversial in any way.

    [–]ageingrockstar 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    I’ve only ever taught the primary school age stuff, but relationships education that I taught was about the different kinds of relationships (family vs friends vs strangers) but most of it was safeguarding stuff and who to talk to if something happens that makes you uncomfortable

    Ah, ok, hadn't thought of that aspect

    [–]ClassroomPast6178 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    That being said, the Daily Mail has found some worrying schemes of work that have apparently been adopted at a few schools because the government botched the introduction of mandatory sex and relationships education (something they’re now frantically trying to fix).

    It looks like the alphabet freaks have quickly moved to fill the gap in the national curriculum with their borderline pornographic nonsense.

    I’ve never seen these materials at any of the schools I’ve worked at, but I can believe that some schools, after receiving bad advice from outside groups (like Stonewall) might have gone ahead and used the materials - especially if they were offered free or at low cost (good schemes of work can be really expensive, my last school brought in a new Maths SoW and spent over £10k buying all the books and course materials).

    [–]ageingrockstar 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    As a non-parent and non-teacher I have an idea on how these classes could work (but maybe you could disabuse me if it's an impractical idea).

    At parent teacher night, the teacher presents a schedule of these classes and what will be taught in each one. Maybe even a copy of the materials used in each class too. There's a check box against each class and the parent is asked to tick the box for each class that they want their child to attend. (If the parent doesn't attend the P-T night then the schedule is emailed out to the parent.)

    Then each class taught is kept close to the outline of what was on the schedule, with the child/student having a copy so they can tell their parents if it deviated too much.

    Obviously there's a logistics issue with students who haven't had the check-box ticked for that class having to be provided with some other activity. But that shouldn't be too much of an issue if you're only running a few classes each year (can't see this topic needing more than 1 to 4 classes a year; from memory I had only 2 or 3 classes on this subject over the entire period of my schooling).

    [–]ClassroomPast6178 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    That’s how we used to do it and all the religious parents withdrew their children. The problem with that being that you now had screaming nine and ten year old girls getting their first periods in school and thinking they’re dying (I’ve not encountered that but colleagues have told me enough stories). You also have various other issues regarding inappropriate behaviour by children because they don’t understand these new feeling they’ve got.

    To address all that the government agreed to make RSE mandatory (and then botched it).

    I agree with you that the parents should see all the materials and outlines of the lessons so that they aren’t surprised by anything, but I don’t think allowing withdrawals works any more especially with children having internet access.

    There is also stuff like FGM, honour killing and forced marriage in some cultures, the ones that withdraw their children from RSE lessons.

    So I’m 99.99% behind mandatory fact-based biological sex education and relationships education with a safe-guarding emphasis.

    The other 0.01% of me supports saying fuck it, remove it entirely, let the parents handle it and let the chips fall where they may. But we know for a fact that that will result in increased teen pregnancy, and almost certainly decreased child safeguarding. The only reason I’m at 0.01% on this is that I think schools are burdened with too much that should be the responsibility of parents and if parents took some responsibility for their children we wouldn’t have to step in (healthy eating, fighting childhood obesity, mental health and well-being are the big ones I am tired of being responsible for).

    [–]ageingrockstar 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Appreciate the thoughtful response, thanks.

    To start at the end, I very much agree with your sentiment here, and you have my sympathy as a teacher :

    I think schools are burdened with too much that should be the responsibility of parents and if parents took some responsibility for their children we wouldn’t have to step in (healthy eating, fighting childhood obesity, mental health and well-being are the big ones I am tired of being responsible for).

    Regarding your 99.99% score, my own score would probably be more like 33.33% (some support for it being mandatory, but still leaning the other way). I certainly perceive issues with parents being the sole arbiter of what their children are taught, so that's why it's 33% but I guess I'm also pretty dubious about 'the state' forcing instruction on children too, in areas where ideology can creep in. I guess my compromise would be that the children have to be given a copy of the schedule for the classes after their parents have completed it, so that they are at least informed of what their parents are not allowing them to be taught.

    [–]Clownfall 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    They've clearly been better educated already by a TERF mum!

    And they even questioned the force-teaming of LGB with the TQ+, something we need to see a lot more of.

    [–]clownworlddropout 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    More of this please! Expose the lunacy!

    [–]Wanderingthehalls 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    My son will be in secondary in a couple of years and the thought of this shit stresses me out a lot. His primary is absolutely fine, run by a very sensible woman and I'm generally confident that he won't be exposed to gender bullshit there. But it will almost certainly be an issue in secondary because there is a new national curriculum of gender borg nonsense being introduced. So it doesn't even matter what school I send him to, he will be exposed to this shit. He's already a full on 'terf' in that he understands very basic biology and is baffled as to why this stupidity is happening.

    After watching this video I definitely feel a bit better. Both in that the girls were confident enough to state that they know most of their classmates feel the same but are scared of the teacher. And in that I've decided that if he has trouble in school when he's older, that I'll suggest he records what happens. We have one-party recording laws and I have constitutional rights as his recognised main educator, so we'll be legally on firm ground. I wouldn't be rushing any recordings up to social media like the girls and their mothers have done here but I would 100% use it to talk to the school and threaten legal action if necessary.

    [–]filbs111 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    There is hope!

    Back in my day, life skills and RE teachers weren't really looked up to by the students either. Perhaps that was the lesson all along.

    [–]xoenix[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Longer clip here

    [–]UncleWillard56 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Good. This shit is utter nonsense and I'm glad kids are questioning it.