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[–]JulienMayfair 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

The malpractice lawsuits are coming sooner than I expected. I was thinking another 5-10 years before the shit hit the fan.

[–]Haylstorm 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

They already began, look at the tavistock clinic ones. The Bell case was fucking horrifying when it came out that she had 3 1 hour sessions before they decided she was trans.

[–]JulienMayfair 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

True. I was thinking mainly about the United States. I'm not enough of a legal expert to know the difference between medical malpractice law in the U.S. vs. the U.K.

[–]Haylstorm 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly with how much more litigious the US tends to be I wouldn't be surprised if seeing it starts something in the US. Just from the Bell case showing it's possible even if it's in another country. We shall see.

[–]LyingSpirit472 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well, the shit hasn't totally hit the fan for the snarts yet; it's only at malpractice lawsuits. That's just in "ha ha money vacuum go brrr" to the snarts behind this.

Shit won't truly hit the fan until the courts rule that if a person groomed a detransitioner into transitioning, that person's financially liable, not the doctors or parents.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Shit won't truly hit the fan until the courts rule that if a person groomed a detransitioner into transitioning, that person's financially liable, not the doctors or parents.

Watch people like Keffals desperately scramble to delete the Internet if that ever happens.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

So many choice comments catching my eye here.

From the studies I've read, you're more likely to regret plastic surgery than gender affirming surgery.

And then the reply to the above:

Plastic is also much more likely to go botched

Uh-huh, and this in the FtM sub, where forearms looking like picked-over hambones and frankencocks are their final form.

but gender affirming plastic surgery is different from other plastic surgery. It’s necessary sometimes to save someone’s life, I’m sure you know that already lol

But honestly, I'm not surprised that they overwhelmingly double down on their stance in the face of this ad. At a certain point, the sunk cost of transitioning is huge, and they desperately need to believe that it'll pay off if they just keep going. Kind of like compulsive gamblers in that regard though, thinking that they're getting that massive payday after just one more bet.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah I mean they wanna bring in the plastic surgery comparison. Fine, I'm kinda against that too, and I'd definitely be even more against it if doctors were attempting to use it to treat depression and the like. Like how would you feel if a woman came into the doctor saying she was insecure about her face, and the doctor said she had "body dismorphia" and needed to get plastic surgery or else she'd kill herself?

So I'm just of the mind that you need to accept yourself as you are for the most part or else you'll just have more problems. Plastic surgery is in the same boat as gender surgeries to me, unnecessary cosmetic alterations that carry with them a lot of potential problems.

There's some positive applications, burn victims, other accidents and disfigurements, etc, where these can become a "least horrible option" type of deal, so I don't think they should be outright banned, and to some extent adults do need to be able to go through with their own life decisions, but I guess as far as I think the basic right to bodily autonomy doesn't necessarily mean you have the right to legal surgery of whatever form you desire. Seems like certain medical practices are just immoral and should carry criminal penalties for doctors that perform them.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Cosmetic/aesthetic plastic surgeons used to check for psychological and psychiatric problems before operating on a prospective patient. With the proliferation of foreign cut-rate surgical centres in places like Turkey and South Asia, I think a lot of patients are getting procedures done who would have been rejected in years gone by in the UK and US.

I bet the same is true of troon surgery, except the reason for the dropping of the mental health screening is ideological as well as economic.

[–]Haylstorm 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Look up the death rate for Brazilian butt lifts. It's a scary stat. There are some like that that I don't see a practical application for but i'm not a doctor so maybe there is?

Even lip filler stuff creeps me out.

[–]xoenix[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Kind of like video game addiction, which is also celebrated on Reddit.

[–]xoenix[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

By schadenfreude, I mean Reddit's. This ad penetrated all their defenses, and now they're scrambling to cope.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"How come they never say anything about someone regretting a tattoo or a piercing?"

I mean people talk about tattoo regret all the time. It's why laser removal and cover-up tattoos exist. I got a fucking stupid tattoo when I was going through a break-up when I was 21. I liked the tattoo for about a year, then I felt ambivalent about for a decade or so. Eventually I came to dislike it and then hate it even though it's not in a very visible part of my body. I went to a tattoo artist and had it covered up. I was pissed off with myself for making a silly decision that cost me money. I am now ambivalent about it again. I don't dislike it but if a treatment came along that would make it disappear and cost €100, I'd go for it. But it won't and I don't care.

If I had a do over I wouldn't have gotten it, but stupid picture of a flower on my hip, in no way equates to poisoning myself with testosterone, having zipper tits and a roll of skin cut off my thigh and stitched onto my abdomen.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Unless you have a fetish for piercings, none of those will ever have the effect on your body that transitioning will either. And you can (sort of) undo a piercing just by not using it anymore (my understanding is that it never completely heals over though).

[–]Wanderingthehalls 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It mightn't completely heal over but you're talking about a hole the size of a pinhead. I haven't worn earrings in well over a decade but if you get right up close to my earlobes, you can see tiny dots. I've been told if I wanted to I could probably put earrings in with a little effort. But piercings really are something you just stop wearing and that's pretty much that.

There was that fad for stretched out ear holes for a while though. Those must look even more stupid without the spacer-thing in them. But again, even a stupid droopy earlobe would be better than zipper tits. Droopy earlobes don't remove up to 20% of your immune system and remove your ability to breastfeed. Something that was my most treasured ability.

[–]QueenBread 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're getting this wrong. Schadenfreude is being happy at other people's misfortune..... but the people in the thread got exactly what they wanted. They are HAPPY about it. They want to complain and pretend they're oppressed.

[–]AriShekelsteinDDS 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lotta hard coping in that thread.